What about Turkey? They are a secular parliamentary representative democratic republic. They're Muslim. If Muslims didn't want democracy we wouldn't have between five to 12 million Muslims living in the United States.
Oh ye of little faith.
What about Turkey? It's a secular, not muslim government. It has a large majority of muslims, but it is not a muslim country.
Ive been to Turkey. Turkey is far more open than almost all Muslim countries but is most certainly a muslim country.
The Turkish muslim people have repeatedly re-elected Edogan who is an islamist.
I've never visited, but from what I've read of Turkey is that while it is majority muslim, it is NOT a muslim country. It is a secular country. Sunni muslims make up the majority there, and it's true the current President is a muslim, but it is not considered a muslim government or muslim country.
"And finally we come to Turkey, a country oft-cited by apologists due to its relative stability, liberalism, and gender equality. What they consistently choose to ignore is that historically, Turkey was militantly secular. We mean this literally: The country's founder, Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, created a secular state and pushed Islam out of the public sphere (outlawing polygamy, child marriages, and giving divorce rights to women) through (at times, military) force. He even banned the headscarf in various public sectors and is believed by some to have been an atheist.
Only apologists would ignore the circumstances that led to Turkey's incredible progress and success relative to the Muslim world, and hold it up as an example of "Islamic" advancement of women's rights. In fact, child marriages (which continue to be widespread in rural Turkey), are often hidden due to the practice of "religious" marriages (Nikah) being performed without informing secular authorities. Turkey was recently forced to pass a law banning religious marriages with penalties imposed on imams for violations."
This is a guest post written by Muhammad Syed and Sarah Haider
What about Turkey? It's a secular, not muslim government. It has a large majority of muslims, but it is not a muslim country.
Seriously?
Ndavid ok, I think you need to re read my post.
Also re read your post that I was initially giving my response.
You had previously made a comment that "Muslims" didn't want a democracy?
So I gave you Tukey with a vast majority of Sunni Muslim. So therefore by your initial comment one would walk away from the discussion believing you mean Muslims don't like to live in democracies?
I also offered the United States which has Muslims living here who either migrated or are United State born citizens. So my initial question would be if they don't like democracies or their religion is opposed to democracies why do they live in democracies?
__________________ "all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
~Declaration of Independence
I've never visited, but from what I've read of Turkey is that while it is majority muslim, it is NOT a muslim country. It is a secular country. Sunni muslims make up the majority there, and it's true the current President is a muslim, but it is not considered a muslim government or muslim country.
Ok so you agree they are Muslims living in a democracy a SECULAR democracy.
Thank you for playing
__________________ "all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
~Declaration of Independence
"And finally we come to Turkey, a country oft-cited by apologists due to its relative stability, liberalism, and gender equality. What they consistently choose to ignore is that historically, Turkey was militantly secular. We mean this literally: The country's founder, Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, created a secular state and pushed Islam out of the public sphere (outlawing polygamy, child marriages, and giving divorce rights to women) through (at times, military) force. He even banned the headscarf in various public sectors and is believed by some to have been an atheist.
Only apologists would ignore the circumstances that led to Turkey's incredible progress and success relative to the Muslim world, and hold it up as an example of "Islamic" advancement of women's rights. In fact, child marriages (which continue to be widespread in rural Turkey), are often hidden due to the practice of "religious" marriages (Nikah) being performed without informing secular authorities. Turkey was recently forced to pass a law banning religious marriages with penalties imposed on imams for violations."
This is a guest post written by Muhammad Syed and Sarah Haider
Looks like you sure got a lot of Muslims living there in Turkey.
__________________ "all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
~Declaration of Independence
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