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Old 06-11-2007, 10:35 AM
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Look this will most likely be my last post on this thread, I feel like I am telling someone about the joys of flyfishing when they are convinced that bait casting is the only way to fish.

I don't think prophets should hit or miss, my point was the prophets will miss because they are human.

When was the last time you told someone God will heal you, and they didn't get healed. Did that make you a false prophet?

Or when you told yourself that you feel God in something and it turned out not to be the right decision.

I have a different take on Deut. 18, when its emphasis on Moses and his likeness to Jesus Christ and no one can take their place I think v.15 highlights that. But strong meat belongs to those who have exercised their senses and clearly there are many on here that......

You didn't respond to my posts about I Cor 14 or I Thess. 5, Steve you are prejudiced against most gifts or only allow a very a narrow expression of them, I won't be the one to change your mind on this so we will have to disagree on it and leave it alone.
Keith you are wrong on several points:
1. If I told someone God told me personally they were healed they had better be healed. And for your information that has happened on more than one occasion.
2. I do not go around claiming I FEEL God in stuff. Either I have a direct word from Him or I don't. I do not invoke the name of God to buy cheerios at the grocery store. I am not into hocus pocus stuff. I was raised in Kentucky where this foolishness was the norm. NOT IMPRESSED.
3. I believe gifts are judged by the passages you cite so where is the argument. If they missed I would sit them down. Gifts are not a spiritual lottery game.
4. I am NOT prejudiced against genuine spiritual gifts. I have prophecied-gave messages in tongues-interpeted-discerned spirits- having been given at times both the word of wisdom &* knowledge-saw healings-miracles and faith in my small ministry. NO ONE that knows me would agree with you assessment. I do NOT believe in foolishness purporting to be spiritual gifts that hit and miss, using guessing to make someone think I am a spiritual guru of somekind. I HATE the circus atmosphere found in services where the so-called prophet calls out folks to say LOOK AT ME. I have had men and women give me prophecies and I have acted on them. I know men thatif they told me God said I would stand at attention but I am not the least bit impressed with the assembly line prophets that always are giving folks blessing and never pick up on adultery and fornication.
Outside of these differences we agree.
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Old 06-11-2007, 10:54 AM
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I am not the least bit impressed with the assembly line prophets that always are giving folks blessing and never pick up on adultery and fornication.
Don't pick up on it or don't do anything about it?

My husband and I talk about this. When you read about the prophets in the Bible, they weren't always passing out the candy. People hated them and wanted to kill them because they told it like it was.
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Old 06-11-2007, 10:55 AM
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you can say what ever about JA, but ive seen the guy, spent personal time with the guy, and he is as real as it gets.

I dont know about "misses" but I do know about the spirit that guy has. he is a humble Jesus Name Holiness preacher that has helped many.
Ferd,

I think there are many on this forum who know at least one of the men listed...know them like you know JA, and feel the same way you do. I feel like this thread is in very poor taste.
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Old 06-11-2007, 10:56 AM
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Don't pick up on it or don't do anything about it?

My husband and I talk about this. When you read about the prophets in the Bible, they weren't always passing out the candy. People hated them and wanted to kill them because they told it like it was.
Some folks desire the gift but not the responsibilty... I think... they prefer the Glory over the Sacrifice...

I think there are some that possess these gifts and are used by God... there are many who either ride on coattails... or pretend and guess...

imo...
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Old 06-11-2007, 11:01 AM
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Some folks desire the gift but not the responsibilty... I think... they prefer the Glory over the Sacrifice...

I think there are some that possess these gifts and are used by God... there are many who either ride on coattails... or pretend and guess...

imo...
Good points. I have not read this entire thread. I have read a few posts here and there but I caught Epleys last one.

I most certainly believe in the office of the prophet and I believe in the prophetic ministry. I just wonder where the prophets are who will take that responsibility and not just the fluff.
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Old 06-11-2007, 11:07 AM
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Ferd,

I think there are many on this forum who know at least one of the men listed...know them like you know JA, and feel the same way you do. I feel like this thread is in very poor taste.
i agree
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Old 06-11-2007, 01:32 PM
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I know one thing. The office of Prophet will never be printed on your cloak...
It was a response to defend friends...thanks for the low blow, btw, I have never aspired that position, I'm happy to serve how He has asked.
Since you like to talk about your dad a lot, here's my story..see my avatar? Thats MY dad, a successfull businessman who was the FIRST to take out a personal loan to pay for the first CLC building. After him, others lined up and through great sacrifice, built a MIGHTY church. That is him singing at the groundbreaking ceremony. He also donated the labor and services to put in the first parking lot, which was at that time a huge sacrifice...you would know if you have seen it.....for these and many other reasons I will defend CLC, their pastors and their motives. Have they made mistakes? Probably. Who hasn't...well except for Elder Epley's prophets, he he
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Old 06-11-2007, 01:34 PM
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Some folks desire the gift but not the responsibilty... I think... they prefer the Glory over the Sacrifice...

I think there are some that possess these gifts and are used by God... there are many who either ride on coattails... or pretend and guess...

imo...
Where do you attend church?
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Old 06-11-2007, 01:51 PM
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Where do you attend church?
Bump for Randy...
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Old 06-11-2007, 01:52 PM
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monkey man, I too was there during the early years of this conference.
what set it apart was that those who came, didn't come to out dress anyone, it wasn't your typical UPC conference which is basically a social scene. they came and camped out and sought God from morning to night.
for some reason (maybe Than's sickness??- not sure) they stopped having this conference. i wasn't even aware that it was taking place.

I do recall David Grey coming- He did not like the name of the conference and wanted it changed. He said the name "SOP" was too similar to the Latter rain Era that caused such an uproar back in his time. I never knew why Than persisted in calling it that even at the request of DG asking him to change it
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