Who was Harry Morse ?

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Disciple4life

Correct me if I am wrong,

I thought I read that Ewart believed or hoped everybody would eventually be forgiven and accepted into the Kingdom of God. But he wasn't 100% sure so he didn't preach it openly.

Christian Universalist are very open about telling everybody that everyone will definitely come into the Kingdom.

Not trying to split hairs, just wondering about Ewart's theology. Did he later reject Universalism beliefs?

There is both in Universalism, the hopeful and the convinced! I am of the convinced variety. Sounds like Ewart was forced by peer pressure to be "light on the message"!! LOL

[Abiding Now]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Several taught social or virgin purity during those times. William Sowders of the school of prophets group taught that in order to reach perfection.

Well Well, now I know why I'm not perfect.

[Scott Pitta]

Pentecostal archive people are a tight knit group, and are helpful at providing leads. Some leads are dead ends.

Harry Morse did pastor a mission on San Pedro Street, not in San Pedro.

He was born in Wisconsin not Michigan.

Things are still a bit fuzzy, but Frank Bartleman had strong Stockton and Oakland connections prior to the Azuza revival and after it.

But Bartleman did not preach at the Big Downtown Mission like Morse's other Azuza friends did.

Morse and Bartleman were both born in the midwest.

They both worked at the Peniel Missions prior to Azuza.

They were both at the Peniel Mission in Stockton prior to Azuza.

They were both at Azuza.

They both pastored near the Azuza/Seymour church after the Azuza revival.

They were both Spirit filled and baptized in the name of Jesus Christ.

Neither of them (or Frank Ewart) had strong denominational ties.

Still slowly solving the mystery...who was Harry Morse ??

[ReformedDave]

He was my father's pastor for several years- as was Frank Ewart. Morse performed the wedding of my parents and my dad assisted him.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

He was my father's pastor for several years- as was Frank Ewart. Morse performed the wedding of my parents and my dad assisted him.

Tell us some history. This is interesting.

[Scott Pitta]

Yes. We really need some Morse stories. Not to mention some pictures.

This morning I documented that Frank Bartleman preached a revival at the Big Downtown Mission on 4 September 1927. that makes 3 Azuza Mission friends who ministered at the Oakland Mission.

The Azuza mission also sent a evangelistic team to Oakland in 1907 (?). This is 7 years prior to Harry Morse coming there.

The Methodist church and the Church of the Nazarene held "Pentecostal" camp meetings in Oakland in 1904.

What did "Pentecostal" mean prior to the Azuza Mission revival of 1906 ?

I really need clear pictures of Harry Morse. I have yet to find class notebooks from prior students.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta

Yes. We really need some Morse stories. Not to mention some pictures.

This morning I documented that Frank Bartleman preached a revival at the Big Downtown Mission on 4 September 1927. that makes 3 Azuza Mission friends who ministered at the Oakland Mission.

The Azuza mission also sent a evangelistic team to Oakland in 1907 (?). This is 7 years prior to Harry Morse coming there.

The Methodist church and the Church of the Nazarene held "Pentecostal" camp meetings in Oakland in 1904.

What did "Pentecostal" mean prior to the Azuza Mission revival of 1906 ?

I really need clear pictures of Harry Morse. I have yet to find class notebooks from prior students.

Holiness groups believed in entire sanctification as the second definite work of grace an experience post salvation where the sin nature was eradicated.

[ReformedDave]

Everything that I have is purely second-handed. My dad said that Morse had a very large mission, for that time, and had an interesting collection of beliefs. He had both sabbath and Lord's day keepers so had church Tuesday thru Sunday. According to my father Morse was typical of many of the PCI men at that time as to the new birth (one-stepper) but I believe he held to a modalistic view of God and baptized in "Jesus name'.

Interesting side note: those who were workers on his staff could not hold a job outside the church and had to 'trust God'.

My dad loved the man but indicated that he was a bit quirky. C.H. Yadon and Clyde Haney also spent time with him.

My dad also was pastored by Frank Ewart, Glenn Cook and pastored several Azusa people including George Studd.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

Everything that I have is purely second-handed. My dad said that Morse had a very large mission, for that time, and had an interesting collection of beliefs. He had both sabbath and Lord's day keepers so had church Tuesday thru Sunday. According to my father Morse was typical of many of the PCI men at that time as to the new birth (one-stepper) but I believe he held to a modalistic view of God and baptized in "Jesus name'.

Interesting side note: those who were workers on his staff could not hold a job outside the church and had to 'trust God'.

My dad loved the man but indicated that he was a bit quirky. C.H. Yadon and Clyde Haney also spent time with him.

My dad also was pastored by Frank Ewart, Glenn Cook and pastored several Azusa people including George Studd.

Wow.

[ReformedDave]

Also, Oscar Voga spent time working with Morse.