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Old 05-15-2014, 03:53 PM
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Re: Harold Hoffman attacks Jim Kilgore

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Except no one is focusing on what this man said.

You've all discussed the motive behind the original post, my mean, bitter responses and the weather but precious little regarding HH's comments.

You are protecting the system. It's what you do.
We ALL focused on what the man said until you made it about MissB...

I also never spoke of motive. I clearly said what the man said, if he said it, was wrong.

I said If because I was not there and the video is hard to hear so I am assuming those who are saying this man said what they claim they said are being honest.

the fact that you keep telling me Im protecting a system I have been outspoken against proves your deranged bias.
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Old 05-15-2014, 04:21 PM
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Re: Harold Hoffman attacks Jim Kilgore

It appears Harold Hoffman may be a UPCI ordained minister in Shelby Township, Michigan. It doesn't appear that he holds any offices and pastors in Sterling Heights. http://www.midistrict.com/site/leade...c_id=180012432 & http://www.firstchurchsterlingheights.com/staff/
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Old 05-17-2014, 06:00 PM
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Re: Harold Hoffman attacks Jim Kilgore

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Old 05-19-2014, 11:17 AM
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Re: Harold Hoffman attacks Jim Kilgore

@PJLK: Imagine that you love those who say all manner of evil against you. #kingdomthoughts // Well said Pastor Jim...
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Old 05-19-2014, 12:51 PM
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Must be someone really important (to someone) if he's preaching Ohio camp meeting.
HH is well known and respected in the state Michigan. He also has been known to be quite politically incorrect and red neckish ( my vocabulary falls short) by those close to him. He is aware of this and knows its a short coming. Not defending him, just passing on info as told to me by those close to him. Apparently he is taking his politically incorrect ways on the road.
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Old 05-21-2014, 12:23 AM
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Re: Harold Hoffman attacks Jim Kilgore

If he is no longer a part of the organization why would you expect him to continue contributing?

Besides last time I visited there the numbers were way down.
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Old 05-21-2014, 11:57 PM
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Re: Harold Hoffman attacks Jim Kilgore

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If he is no longer a part of the organization why would you expect him to continue contributing?

Besides last time I visited there the numbers were way down.
How long ago was that?
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Old 05-23-2014, 11:43 AM
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Classy! Nothing like hearing a preacher trash another preacher by name from the pulpit.

Regardless of what one thinks about Jimbo Kilgore this Harold Hoffman character is the one that should be ashamed in this case.

Just because you wrap a personal attack in crocodile tears and make it in the context of a sermon does not change what it is.
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Old 05-23-2014, 11:49 AM
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Re: Harold Hoffman attacks Jim Kilgore

By the way who is this Harold Hoffman? I don't believe I have heard the name before.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.

"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

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Re: Harold Hoffman attacks Jim Kilgore

CC1, I answered that in post 92
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