I have this in book form. I turned it on this morning. I am listening to it and reading along on pg. 39 right now. How awesome! Tho I have read it before it is especially moving me today.
OPII merely wants you to walk the walk. You talk a big talk, but you are NOT doing what you say you do.
And this is what I meant by hilarious in my first post. I pretty much anticipated your cowering away from a challenge.
Oh come on, this is just silly, but of course, coming from an unbeliever...
No where in the bible do you hear of the prophets or Apostles, healing every single last person in the world, wherein there was no one left in the world who had any type of infirmity whatsoever, nor do you hear of the prophets and apostles, raising up every single last person who ever died. My bishop has taught me that, miracles, healings, raising of the dead etc, happens when one has faith and when God wills it to be so.
You can have all the faith in the world, but if God doesn't will it to happen, it won't happen, and if God wills something to happen, and you don't have faith, it won't happen.
Even Jesus, who was God, (and is God) entered into a city, and couldn't do mighty works their because of the unbelief of the people.
A lot of people say that they believe, but when they're put up to it, it shows that they don't truly have faith in God at all.
Plus God wants us to come to Him, believing in Him, having not seen. But people today, are all, "Show me a miracle, and then I'll believe," which is backwards, and even then, most times even if someone is shown they still won't believe.
Also, even though God wants to show His glory through these miracles, God rather you obey Him first, and walk upright before Him. A lot of people would love to be healed, but they don't want to walk right before God. God knows their heart, which is another reason why a lot of people don't get delivered, besides their unbelief.
__________________ Philippians 4:13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
I have this in book form. I turned it on this morning. I am listening to it and reading along on pg. 39 right now. How awesome! Tho I have read it before it is especially moving me today.
Truly faith building.
This is one of my favorite sources of meditation and reflection on the Biblical basis for divine healing. Unlike many ministers who fail to duplicate themselves in others, Dr. Lake left us a legacy which will endure long after our own deaths.
his example is being duplicated worldwide with even greater results. it amuses me sometimes when I hear people quote John 14:12-14 and the "greater works," when they're not even doing the works He did.
Oh come on, this is just silly, but of course, coming from an unbeliever...
No where in the bible do you hear of the prophets or Apostles, healing every single last person in the world, wherein there was no one left in the world who had any type of infirmity whatsoever, nor do you hear of the prophets and apostles, raising up every single last person who ever died. My bishop has taught me that, miracles, healings, raising of the dead etc, happens when one has faith and when God wills it to be so.
You can have all the faith in the world, but if God doesn't will it to happen, it won't happen, and if God wills something to happen, and you don't have faith, it won't happen.
Even Jesus, who was God, (and is God) entered into a city, and couldn't do mighty works their because of the unbelief of the people.
A lot of people say that they believe, but when they're put up to it, it shows that they don't truly have faith in God at all.
Plus God wants us to come to Him, believing in Him, having not seen. But people today, are all, "Show me a miracle, and then I'll believe," which is backwards, and even then, most times even if someone is shown they still won't believe.
Also, even though God wants to show His glory through these miracles, God rather you obey Him first, and walk upright before Him. A lot of people would love to be healed, but they don't want to walk right before God. God knows their heart, which is another reason why a lot of people don't get delivered, besides their unbelief.
Dr. Yates says he is successful 60%-70% of the time. But he refuses to go room to room at a hospital. Why do you think he won't do this?
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
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God's will is for us to expect to receive divine healing every time.
We are commanded to heal all of the sick; we do not need a special "leading or unction."
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All believers can minister healing effectively; some have specialized gifts of healing.
God's desire is to heal all of our diseases just as He forgives all of our sins.
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Jesus healed thousands at a time without requiring them to repent or believe first.
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Jesus taught the disciples to command spirits of infirmity to leave rather than to intercede.
We are commanded to lay hands on the sick.
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Healing for every illness has already been provided in Christ beating at the whipping post.
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We are to command the power of God without picking and choosing who is worthy.
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Because Christ is in me, I already have all the power and anointing that I will need.
God's anointing which abides within me, is always ready to heal and is always on.
Sickness is the devil's work and Jesus came to destroy the works of the devil.
We must exercise our authority, refusing to receive spirits of infirmity back again.
Do you believe these things? Then go room to room at the hospital.
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
Do you believe these things? Then go room to room at the hospital.
Thanks for re-posting my comments, some may not have read them yet!
You can find my response to you under the Thread "Words in the Bible most Christians Don't Believe." I'm sure the others will enjoy reading them as well.
Acts 20:27 (KJV)
27 For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God.
I am reminded of a quote from William Shakespeare. I'll paraphrase, "Me thinks thou doth protest too much!"
Divine Healing was clearly provided for in the Atonement; it was part of the Apostolic commission. It is part of the Great Commission. It is included as one of the nine Gifts of the Spirit and in the instructions of James to the Church in James 5:14. All that being said and the indisputable record of Scripture, it would seem that it is you, not I that has an issue with this.
If you have anything to add to the discussion, fine. But the strawman attacks and lack of substance is wearing thin on us all.
I am glad that you decided to "chime in." Although, I admit to being a bit puzzled by your forum name. "Old Paths" would seem to be a reference to Jeremiah 6:16, implying a belief in the Pentecostal tradition of which Divine Healing was once a hallmark. Alas, those days are gone. And yet God continues to heal in spite of the unbelief of His people.
You might want to keep those hip-waders handy! We are experiencing the fulfillment of prophecy.
Ezekiel 47--The River From the Temple
47 The man brought me back to the entrance to the temple, and I saw water coming out from under the threshold of the temple toward the east (for the temple faced east). The water was coming down from under the south side of the temple, south of the altar. 2 He then brought me out through the north gate and led me around the outside to the outer gate facing east, and the water was trickling from the south side.3 As the man went eastward with a measuring line in his hand, he measured off a thousand cubits[a] and then led me through water that was ankle-deep. 4 He measured off another thousand cubits and led me through water that was knee-deep. He measured off another thousand and led me through water that was up to the waist. 5 He measured off another thousand, but now it was a river that I could not cross, because the water had risen and was deep enough to swim ina river that no one could cross. 6 He asked me, Son of man, do you see this?
The healing river is flowing and the currents are becoming swifter.
I am also sadly, reminded of another prophecy, this one in: Jeremiah 6:16 (KJV)16 Thus saith the Lord, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein.
Far too many claim the Apostolic mantle, yet refuse to walk in His ways.
The old paths I adhere to are those of being honest, not living in a fantasy world of puffing one's self up with hogwash claims, and backing up what we say. You obviously know nothing of these old paths.
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The old paths I adhere to are those of being honest, not living in a fantasy world of puffing one's self up with hogwash claims, and backing up what we say. You obviously know nothing of these old paths.
As a firm believer in the Acts 2:38/John3:3,5 message and the absolute authority of the Word of God and the historicity of the miracles of the Bible, I remain mystified at your reaction to the message that the day of miracles is not over.
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