Do you believe Trinitarianism is Biblical doctrine or false doctrine?
This is what I believe, there is not such thing as trinitarianism in scripture, yet there are variants of trinitariansism.
Criswell that great storied baptist preacher of First Baptist in Dallas, TX was as oneness as any of us.
Trinitarianism is a theological term that they use to explain the three in one God. Some of them view God like we do but use the language of their instructors and learning, some of them are tri theists and believe in a plurality of the Godhead, which is blantly false.
I don't like blanket statements, and to generalize without actually listening to what someone believe and I hate when people do it me and I won't reciprocate.
No, she's not a prophet nor can she be used in the prophetic gifts because she's a trinitarian. She doesn't believe in the same God.
Sounds mean, but it's true. Trinitarianism is a false doctrine and this so-called prophet has no place behind the pulpit of an alleged oneness church.
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Please dont tell me that you went to CLC and actually believe that ........!
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Do you believe Trinitarianism is Biblical doctrine or false doctrine?
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Understanding the Godhead now is linked to receiving the H.S.???
My question was if Keith believes the Trinity is biblical doctrine or not. I posted that it was a false doctrine and people who believe in it shouldn't be behind our pulpits. I could be wrong, but Keith seemed to challenge me on that.
I'm not linking understanding the GH to receiving the HG.
My question was if Keith believes the Trinity is biblical doctrine or not. I posted that it was a false doctrine and people who believe in it shouldn't be behind our pulpits. I could be wrong, but Keith seemed to challenge me on that.
I'm not linking understanding the GH to receiving the HG.
I am not saying that they should be behind our pulpits, but you labeled her as someone who is a false prophet and not having the genuine gift of prophecy. If you actually listened to Dan Segraves then there is no one that you can actually embrace that idea. Gifts are that, they dont' reflect on the person being used, they reflect on the giver, God.
My question was if Keith believes the Trinity is biblical doctrine or not. I posted that it was a false doctrine and people who believe in it shouldn't be behind our pulpits. I could be wrong, but Keith seemed to challenge me on that.
I'm not linking understanding the GH to receiving the HG.
You're sidestepping ....
You made this statement in addition to questioning KP ....
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No, she's not a prophet nor can she be used in the prophetic gifts because she's a trinitarian. She doesn't believe in the same God.
Sounds mean, but it's true. Trinitarianism is a false doctrine and this so-called prophet has no place behind the pulpit of an alleged oneness church.
My question was if Keith believes the Trinity is biblical doctrine or not. I posted that it was a false doctrine and people who believe in it shouldn't be behind our pulpits. I could be wrong, but Keith seemed to challenge me on that.
No trinitarians went behind AM's pulpit , huh???? ....
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Eternal sonship is trinitarian heresy, pure and simple.
I am sure someone has already addressed this, as I am just now reading the first page of the thread.
Disappointing.
Do these people even know or care about doctrine anymore?
You have to admire people who are finally standing where they have been leaning for years. This Austin shennanigan is the first real, open, display of the leanings of those who hate structure and rules, joining the ranks of others of like preacious faith.
These others who are leaning, IMO, are eventually going to embrace those same elements when their foundation shifts.
"Abstain from the very appearance of Evil" has always worked for me.
We want to take this opportunity to invite you to celebrate the seventh anniversary of The Austin Awakening.
Kenneth and Wanda Phillips along with Jonathan and Stephanie Suber and the entire Promiseland Church community cordially invite you to a summer event that will no doubt be one of the spiritual highlights of the year. Several of the Acts 29tv ministries including, Dr.Wendell Hutchins, John Ragsdale along with Pastor Randy Phillips and the Awakening band, will be ministering. The ministry of Micah Stampley will launch us into the prophetic flow as we continue through Thursday evening with the prophetic ministry of Cindy Jacobs. So, make room in your summer schedule for a spiritual awakening for the entire family. Remember, June 26-28, 2007
BTW, Randy ... Suber is an associate pastor at PromiseLand ... who is hosting this event.
A church pastored by a staunch PAJCer in KP ....
They have invited trinitarian speakers ... a common place Oneness practice even in UPCI circles .... See AM and others.
It is FAR from common place.
AM had John maxwell in to talk about leadership (which was bad enough), but never put him behind the pulpit to deliver a so-called word from God.
Please document all the common place trinitarian speakers at UPC events.
I am not saying that they should be behind our pulpits, but you labeled her as someone who is a false prophet and not having the genuine gift of prophecy. If you actually listened to Dan Segraves then there is no one that you can actually embrace that idea. Gifts are that, they dont' reflect on the person being used, they reflect on the giver, God.
I would disagree that I labeled her as a false prophet. The only thing I attributed as "false" was the doctrine, which even you have stated is not scriptural.
I understand God can and will use whomever He chooses. And I would somewhat agree with the premise that gifts don't reflect the person, but God. However, how far does one go with that? Could Marilyn Manson call himself a prophet and say he's used in the gifts - and not be collectively criticized and laughed at? How far are we willing to go to say a person is being used of God? Especially one who has enjoined themself to a false doctrine?
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