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04-28-2011, 12:55 AM
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Re: President releases long form birth certificate
Trump is an opportunist. I don't believe he is even serious about running for president unless the guy is more narcissistic than I thought
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04-28-2011, 05:57 AM
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He is not a "natural born citizen" at best he is a british subject(kenyan) since you get your citizenship from your daddy, not your place of birth ? IE: Mccain's birth status ?
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04-28-2011, 06:28 AM
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Canam---you really ought to give it up.
Funny, "we have too many serious things to be talking about than to be dealing with this sideshow" BO said at his press conference. So after leaving the press conference what did he do? Off to Chicago for a round of golf, the Oprah Winfrey Show and 3 fundraisers, one a $30,000 a plate event.
Glad to see he's tackling the serious issues of the day!
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04-28-2011, 07:58 AM
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Re: President releases long form birth certificate
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Why was this such an emotional issue for you? Name calling, insulting etc?
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It's just you coadie - you're the one who comes on strong with the name calling and irate emotions. To your credit, you have mellowed considerably but it may take time for me to see those changes as sincere. So please bear with me in the meantime.
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How shamefull. When I hire people I start a file. This is no different for me. I-9's, passport, SS card, CV, resumes, Data sheets, physical, insurance app . Transcripts. Behavioral reference checks.
No big deal for me. I hired a Wall Street lawyer one time. Hard to reference check. Too many layers had been laid off. He cooperated.
Obama works for us. You seem to not respect the constitution. We have much less than half as much stuff on Obama our employee as I do in HR files.
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... get this... and this is key... Will YOU post any of that information that you have gathered from your new hires on the Internet?
No! Of course not. I doesn't take that imaginary "Wall Street lawyer" to tell you that doing so would be illegal and a gross violation of those people's privacy. Go back and have someone read that letter you posted from Obama's lawyers to the Hawaiian Department of Health. Look at the hoops Obama had to jump through to get the record that he released yesterday... and YOU posted the letter yourself!
Read it. Or have someone help you with it. There are no pictures to look at and to color so you'll have to get some help. But then again, that's what everyone's been begging you to do all along - Get some help!
... and get this! Candidates for President and even Presidents themselves have the same expectation to privacy that you, I and your imaginary "employees" have. If you think I am wrong, then prove it! Post the personal information that you have on any of your "employees."
You seem to respect neither the Constitution nor the rule of law in our great country. You also seem to be taking this in a very emotional manner because you keep descending into name calling.
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In certain staff we check credit reports, and DMV reports. We have a lending partner if an Employee wants a mortgage. If you were in banking, you would know people applying for loans do paperwork and appraisals. I can see why birthers wanted a little respect.
It is shocking how low people expectations are. It is shocking to see the histrionics, when this paperwork was required years ago and is still far from complete.
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Post the credit report of one of your "employees." Just to see what happens. You weren't even able to get that info without the employee signing off and giving you permission to access the information. Now post some of that stuff online. C'mon. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. I posted my long form online. Where's your's? What about posting a third party's info?
Have the consequences of any of this seeped into your head yet?
The President "serves us" - you bet. But he's still protected by the same rights that have so far prevented you from installing cameras in your employee bathrooms... you haven't installed those cameras, right?
Obama's eligibility for candidacy to federal office, his eligibility for federal campaign funds (whether he wanted to use them or not) and his eligibility to hold the office of POTUS if elected were all confirmed by Condolleeza Rice's office sometime around 2006, or so.
You are aware of that, aren't you? The Secretary of State certifies the eligibility of the candidates and then, in time, the Secretary of State certifies the results of the electoral college votes.
That's in the Constitution. You know, that document that you see on a roll next to the toilet whenever you look at the camera installed in your "Executive Washroom."
This is simple and basic Junior High Civics. Are you sure that you're a U.S. citizen?
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04-28-2011, 07:59 AM
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Keep reeling, coadmeister, but your crow is getting cold. Better hurry up and eat it before it turns on ya.
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04-28-2011, 08:01 AM
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He is not a "natural born citizen" at best he is a british subject(kenyan) since you get your citizenship from your daddy, not your place of birth ? IE: Mccain's birth status ?
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You guys are pathetic. PAH-THET-IC!
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04-28-2011, 09:02 AM
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Canam---you really ought to give it up.
Funny, "we have too many serious things to be talking about than to be dealing with this sideshow" BO said at his press conference. So after leaving the press conference what did he do? Off to Chicago for a round of golf, the Oprah Winfrey Show and 3 fundraisers, one a $30,000 a plate event.
Glad to see he's tackling the serious issues of the day! 
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04-28-2011, 09:17 AM
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This latest BC attempt is more fake than Pamela Anderson's ah eyelashes,They take his non existent ,according to the gov, BC use photoshop/unmask, remove info and add info (different types of lettering from the same typewriter),unable to hide the ghost X's over twins and tripletts,not that could be 2 or 3 of anything like this guy, Bill Ayers being the closest copy, lay it on top of green safety paper, produced in the late 70's add words like african ,instead of negro or negroid, used in the 60.s.This like Dan Rathers "Fake but true" docs.was busted in less than a 24 hour news cycle,like Nixon, the coverup will be his downfall,his father is african /kenyan,he is not natural born ,period This has all been revealed by imaging experts/and other anylysts.Stop the coverup/and just admit Pel, Rice screwed up by not asking for his real BC !
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04-28-2011, 09:26 AM
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Re: President releases long form birth certificate
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It's just you coadie - you're the one who comes on strong with the name calling and irate emotions. To your credit, you have mellowed considerably but it may take time for me to see those changes as sincere. So please bear with me in the meantime.
... get this... and this is key... Will YOU post any of that information that you have gathered from your new hires on the Internet?
No! Of course not. I doesn't take that imaginary "Wall Street lawyer" to tell you that doing so would be illegal and a gross violation of those people's privacy. Go back and have someone read that letter you posted from Obama's lawyers to the Hawaiian Department of Health. Look at the hoops Obama had to jump through to get the record that he released yesterday... and YOU posted the letter yourself!
Read it. Or have someone help you with it. There are no pictures to look at and to color so you'll have to get some help. But then again, that's what everyone's been begging you to do all along - Get some help!
... and get this! Candidates for President and even Presidents themselves have the same expectation to privacy that you, I and your imaginary "employees" have. If you think I am wrong, then prove it! Post the personal information that you have on any of your "employees."
You seem to respect neither the Constitution nor the rule of law in our great country. You also seem to be taking this in a very emotional manner because you keep descending into name calling.
Post the credit report of one of your "employees." Just to see what happens. You weren't even able to get that info without the employee signing off and giving you permission to access the information. Now post some of that stuff online. C'mon. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. I posted my long form online. Where's your's? What about posting a third party's info?
Have the consequences of any of this seeped into your head yet?
The President "serves us" - you bet. But he's still protected by the same rights that have so far prevented you from installing cameras in your employee bathrooms... you haven't installed those cameras, right?
Obama's eligibility for candidacy to federal office, his eligibility for federal campaign funds (whether he wanted to use them or not) and his eligibility to hold the office of POTUS if elected were all confirmed by Condolleeza Rice's office sometime around 2006, or so.
You are aware of that, aren't you? The Secretary of State certifies the eligibility of the candidates and then, in time, the Secretary of State certifies the results of the electoral college votes.
That's in the Constitution. You know, that document that you see on a roll next to the toilet whenever you look at the camera installed in your "Executive Washroom."
This is simple and basic Junior High Civics. Are you sure that you're a U.S. citizen?
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You really don't know employment laws. There are not blanket privileges to check a job applicant's credit report. We have to have an applicant consent to have their references checked and offer that signed consent to their previous employer. Why didn't we have Oba'a's consent before employment?
I use 2 legal manuals and ignore your huffing and puffing and general lack of biz education in employment laws. Again, i don't refer to civics class. We have lawyers that specialize.
I have even used employment contracts for many years. In the real business world, they don't operate like the gubment.
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04-28-2011, 10:19 AM
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This latest BC attempt is more fake than Pamela Anderson's ah eyelashes,They take his non existent ,according to the gov, BC use photoshop/unmask, remove info and add info (different types of lettering from the same typewriter),unable to hide the ghost X's over twins and tripletts,not that could be 2 or 3 of anything like this guy, Bill Ayers being the closest copy, lay it on top of green safety paper, produced in the late 70's add words like african ,instead of negro or negroid, used in the 60.s.This like Dan Rathers "Fake but true" docs.was busted in less than a 24 hour news cycle,like Nixon, the coverup will be his downfall,his father is african /kenyan,he is not natural born ,period This has all been revealed by imaging experts/and other anylysts.Stop the coverup/and just admit Pel, Rice screwed up by not asking for his real BC !
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Can you prove any of this? You know, "prove it."
Back in 2008 I would have jumped all over such assertions as yours and clung to them in the hopes that the tide might be turned in favor of conservative candidates... but there was NO PROOF - just hackneyed assertions.
Prove something here, canam. Give us evidence for your claims. How do you "know" an unmask job was run on this image?
The current Hawaiian "gov" (a Democrat screwball) said something once along the lines that he couldn't "find" the birth record - but what do you expect from Dems? His predecessor, Linda Lingle - a Republican - did find this record and had already vouched for Obama's Hawaiian birth.
You're all over the place on this. First you said this record didn't exist. Next, you said it does exist but it's fake. Later, (on that new thread by coadie) you have said he WAS born in Hawaii, but that doesn't count because he was born to a Kenyan father.
What's it gonna be?
And... wouldn't it be easier to just campaign against his re-election because of the mess he's made of the economy and our nation's foreign affairs?
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