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View Poll Results: Where will the lost spend eternity, after final judgement?
The lake of fire. Eternal torment. Burning forever!!! 35 87.50%
Not sure. God may grant a pardon. Ya never know. 5 12.50%
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Old 05-07-2007, 03:11 PM
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Guess my pastor didn't know any better. (AG)
The pastor isn't to blame. It's your choice and your decision. Find a church that preaches the truth and get saved!!!
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Old 05-07-2007, 04:19 PM
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By your definition, I am a child of the devil. (I was baptized in the titles.)Guess I love evil.
Timmy you don't have to remain that way find you an Apostolic preacher that will baptize you like the early church was baptized.
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Old 05-07-2007, 07:38 PM
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Just to make sure I understand what you're saying: "children of the devil" = anyone who has not obeyed Acts 2:38, is that correct?
Don't put words in my mouth Timmy. I say exactly what I mean when I say it, I don't need you to try to stir up trouble by rewording it.
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Old 05-07-2007, 07:45 PM
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By your definition, I am a child of the devil. (I was baptized in the titles.)Guess I love evil.
Timmy, why are you here? And have you read through the forum rules yet?
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Old 05-07-2007, 07:47 PM
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Timmy you don't have to remain that way find you an Apostolic preacher that will baptize you like the early church was baptized.
Doesn't sound like he is interested. Maybe if he came here to convince us only he is right and we are all wrong, he can stick with scriptures instead of the emotional rhetoric we have seen so far
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Old 05-07-2007, 09:00 PM
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Don't put words in my mouth Timmy. I say exactly what I mean when I say it, I don't need you to try to stir up trouble by rewording it.
Your answer to my question "But do the 'saved' somehow stop 'loving evil', while the 'lost' (whether by choice or simply by never hearing the gospel) somehow 'love evil'?" was "Yes, the children of the devil love evil and the children of God love good." It's a common technique in conversation to make sure one understands the other party by paraphrasing and asking if it's correct. So, by "children of the devil" did you mean "the lost", or not? And are "the lost" those who have not obeyed Acts 2:38, or not? Were you answering my question about the saved and the lost, or not? It seemed like everything I said in my paraphrase logically followed from what you (and perhaps others) wrote. If I got it wrong, you could just correct me, rather than bash me. But suit yourself.

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Doesn't sound like he is interested. Maybe if he came here to convince us only he is right and we are all wrong, he can stick with scriptures instead of the emotional rhetoric we have seen so far
Who's putting words in whose mouth now?

I have tried to get you folks to explain your beliefs with scripture. You have tried to do so. It hasn't worked, so far. If you want to give up, fine. I'll go my way, and will live my life as I see fit and pleasing to God, and it won't bother me one iota if you think I'm not.

Emotional rhetoric? Like concluding from what has been written here that I must be a child of the devil and love evil? I am a member of the class you've defined. If that doesn't make me a child of the devil, what does it do? Emotion or not, it's just simple logic. (Again, correct me if I'm wrong!)

And yes, I've read the rules. I'm here to learn about your faith, as provided in the rules. And in doing so, perhaps I have stirred the pot, and even annoyed some of you. I can't help it if you cannot answer my questions convincingly. Of course, you'll say I'm not trying to understand, just want to make trouble. You guys are good at reading minds.
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Old 05-07-2007, 10:24 PM
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Your answer to my question "But do the 'saved' somehow stop 'loving evil', while the 'lost' (whether by choice or simply by never hearing the gospel) somehow 'love evil'?" was "Yes, the children of the devil love evil and the children of God love good." It's a common technique in conversation to make sure one understands the other party by paraphrasing and asking if it's correct. So, by "children of the devil" did you mean "the lost", or not? And are "the lost" those who have not obeyed Acts 2:38, or not? Were you answering my question about the saved and the lost, or not? It seemed like everything I said in my paraphrase logically followed from what you (and perhaps others) wrote. If I got it wrong, you could just correct me, rather than bash me. But suit yourself.



Who's putting words in whose mouth now?

I have tried to get you folks to explain your beliefs with scripture. You have tried to do so. It hasn't worked, so far. If you want to give up, fine. I'll go my way, and will live my life as I see fit and pleasing to God, and it won't bother me one iota if you think I'm not.

Emotional rhetoric? Like concluding from what has been written here that I must be a child of the devil and love evil? I am a member of the class you've defined. If that doesn't make me a child of the devil, what does it do? Emotion or not, it's just simple logic. (Again, correct me if I'm wrong!)

And yes, I've read the rules. I'm here to learn about your faith, as provided in the rules. And in doing so, perhaps I have stirred the pot, and even annoyed some of you. I can't help it if you cannot answer my questions convincingly. Of course, you'll say I'm not trying to understand, just want to make trouble. You guys are good at reading minds.
Tim what is the Father's name???? Let us start there.
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Old 05-07-2007, 10:28 PM
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Tim what is the Father's name???? Let us start there.
Huh? Why are you asking me? I'm here to learn, not teach, remember?

Oh, but if this is a pop quiz, to see if I've learned something of what you believe, let me try:

The Father's name is Jesus.

How did I do?
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Huh? Why are you asking me? I'm here to learn, not teach, remember?

Oh, but if this is a pop quiz, to see if I've learned something of what you believe, let me try:

The Father's name is Jesus.

How did I do?
You did very good!

Now what is the name of the Son?
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Old 05-07-2007, 10:32 PM
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You did very good!

Now what is the name of the Son?
Oh that's eay! The Son's name is Jesus, too.

What scripture says the Father's name is Jesus?
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