Very Interesting From The Apostolic News

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by DAII

Links about his latest books .... namely the August and November articles have "disappeared" from the AN archive ... except for the Testimony ones.

http://www.apostolicnews.org/?s=boora

Did he know [no] longer have the data that was going to put it altogether ????

He was going to show us the UNBROKEN CHAIN .... WHAT GIVES?

When you have successfully persuaded someone to come around and accept your position as valid you should probably encourage them rather than continue to poke at them.

You've done well here, DAII. Congratulate AN for "seeing the light."

[DAII]

I also see William still fawning over Oneness champions like the Bishop of Antioch, Paul of Samosota ... in his fictional novel of who he calls "greatest heretic of all time"...

More about Paul of Samosota's "Apostolic" Oneness beliefs ...

Teachings

Paul's teaching is a form of Monarchianism, which emphasized the oneness of God. Paul taught that Jesus was born a mere man, but that at his baptism he was infused with the divine Logos or word of God. Hence, Jesus was seen not as God-become-man but as man-become-God.

In his Discourses to Sabinus, of which only fragments are preserved in a book against heresies ascribed to Anastasius, Paul writes:

"Having been anointed by the Holy Spirit he received the title of the anointed (i.e. Christos), suffering in accordance with his nature, working wonders in accordance with grace. For in fixity and resoluteness of character he likened himself to God; and having kept himself free from sin was united with God, and was empowered to grasp as it were the power and authority of wonders. By these he was shown to possess over and above the will, one and the same activity (with God), and won the title of Redeemer and Saviour of our race."
"The Saviour became holy and just; and by struggle and hard work overcame the sins of our forefather. By these means he succeeded in perfecting himself, and was through his moral excellence united with God; having attained to unity and sameness of will and energy (i.e. activity) with Him through his advances in the path of good deeds. This will be preserved inseparable (from the Divine), and so inherited the name which is above all names, the prize of love and affection vouchsafed in grace to him."

"We do not award praise to beings which submit merely in virtue of their nature; but we do award high praise to beings which submit because their attitude is one of love; and so submitting because their inspiring motive is one and the same, they are confirmed and strengthened by one and the same indwelling power, of which the force ever grows, so that it never ceases to stir. It was in virtue of this love that the Saviour coalesced with God, so as to admit of no divorce from Him, but for all ages to retain one and the same will and activity with Him, an activity perpetually at work in the manifestation of good."

"Wonder not that the Saviour had one will with God. For as nature manifests the substance of the many to subsist as one and the same, so the attitude of love produces in the many a unity and a sameness of will which is manifested by unity and sameness of approval and well-pleasingness."

Paul was an early forerunner of Adoptionism. Possibly, the Paulicians of Armenia adhered to his teachings, and received their name from him. However, historical records show that the Paulicians were bitterly persecuted more for their gnostic and iconoclastic views than for their adherence to Adoptionism.

Paul's pupil Lucian of Antioch is considered to have had a major influence on Arius the founder of Arianism.

Eusebius' account
Another major source of information we have of Paul of Samosata comes from Eusebius of Caesarea, who described some of the doctrines and practices Paul displayed openly, which included:
Receiving money for his religious services,[3] as well as paying others to preach his doctrines.[4]

Preferring to be called an imperial procurator of queen Zenobia, rather than bishop.[5]

He stopped the production of psalms to Christ, and trained women to sing psalms to himself[6] as an angel come down from heaven.[7]

Likewise, Eusebius hints to the fact that Paul was "too familiar" with his women followers,[8] whom he called "subintroductae".[9]

source: Wiki

[DAII]

Originally Posted by pelathais

When you have successfully persuaded someone to come around and accept your position as valid you should probably encourage them rather than continue to poke at them.

You've done well here, DAII. Congratulate AN for "seeing the light."

Someone else deserves the credit for this one.

[Socialite]

The technology AN uses for its stories, it's very much the possibility that this AFF thread could pop up in their reader!

And I find that highly entertaining...

[DAII]

Originally Posted by Socialite

The technology AN uses for its stories, it's very much the possibility that this AFF thread could pop up in their reader!

And I find that highly entertaining...

Personally, I don't believe the editors there read AFF.

[coadie]

Dan is our apostolic version of wiki and Daily Kos combined. Gossip central.

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by DAII

Personally, I don't believe the editors there read AFF.

They may not read AFF, but their sophisticated news finder is as simple as plugging in keywords and browsing through news results -- that and viewer-submitted news items. Understanding this, AFF tends to come up on Google searches quite often, so I'd assume our threads have appeared on their viewer results before.

And I wouldn't be shocked if they had never read AFF before. In fact, I find that hard to believe, even if they were mortified and rebukes the site, vowing never to let their eyes onto such evil things ever again!

[DAII]

Originally Posted by Socialite

They may not read AFF, but their sophisticated news finder is as simple as plugging in keywords and browsing through news results -- that and viewer-submitted news items. Understanding this, AFF tends to come up on Google searches quite often, so I'd assume our threads have appeared on their viewer results before.

And I wouldn't be shocked if they had never read AFF before. In fact, I find that hard to believe, even if they were mortified and rebukes the site, vowing never to let their eyes onto such evil things ever again!

The guys at th MASONIC preacher's forum have NEVER read AFF either.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by DAII

Got to visit William Chalfant's new site ... http://www.williambchalfant.com/

His historical fiction novel on the Nephalim coming to earth during the building of Noah's Ark and trying to burn it down and the women in the family falling in love with the "fallen angel" is eerie ....

Well yeah, but at least it's all being published as fiction now and not as "historical research."

[DAII]

Originally Posted by pelathais

Well yeah, but at least it's all being published as fiction now and not as "historical research."

You were present when he presented his "historical research" correct?

How did that go?