Libertarian economics.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Socialite

Guess who one of Alan Greenspan's greatest influences was? Yup...

You are not making an honest claim . He followed her philosophy but we have no record of his referring to her for economics. He wasn't that stupid. He had a Phd from NYU. she dropped out of st Petersburg University.

Liberals sure like to exagerate.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Socialite

I would give you a for that... but really, I don't think Coadie can handle Rand.

What's to handle?

There is nothing there. she wrote a fiction story and no economics. She is dead and long gone. Her schooing in st Petersburg before she dropped out wasn't in econ. it was in philosophy.
She did adore the heathen to the core atheist neitzche.

No wonder you like her. she is an idiot in todays terms regarding economics.
Today we have stats and run math models on computers. She never saw that era. She comes from the dark ages.

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by coadie

You are not making an honest claim . He followed her philosophy but we have no record of his referring to her for economics. He wasn't that stupid. He had a Phd from NYU. she dropped out of st Petersburg University.

Liberals sure like to exagerate.

How is that a dishonest claim????????


Influence.

His "science" and "philosophy" were not mutually exclusive. Greenspan's philosophical ideas of limited government harmonized with his "scientific" views of free market economy.

The only dishonest claims here are the subtle hint that Rand did not graduate, when she did in October 1924. But the claims of influence to Greenspan aren't her claims, they are Al's! Take that up with him! He obviously doesn't think she's ignorant and unlearned!

In fact, Greenspan was a huge Rand fan, serving on her "inner circle" called the "Ayn Rand Collective." 30 years of close friendship including having her stand beside him at his 1974 swearing in as Chair of the Council of Economic Advisers.

You error in saying free market ideology is mutually exclusive of economic "science."

So yeah... let's talk about "dishonest claims"

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by coadie

What's to handle?

There is nothing there. she wrote a fiction story and no economics. She is dead and long gone. Her schooing in st Petersburg before she dropped out wasn't in econ. it was in philosophy.
She did adore the heathen to the core atheist neitzche.

No wonder you like her. she is an idiot in todays terms regarding economics.
Today we have stats and run math models on computers. She never saw that era. She comes from the dark ages.

HAVE YOU READ IT? *crickets*

Didn't think so. So don't presume to know what you wrote, and certainly don't assume a dismissive position of something you are ignorant of.

You clearly don't understand the philosophy behind free market/limited government.

Nietzche was one of 3 philosophers she was influenced by. Aristotle and Socrates were the others. But what's that have to do with anything? We are talking about her taking over your church. We are talking role of government -- including the government's role in an economy.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by coadie

All about self. selfish hedonism. No wonder the Libertarians have no economics. Then she contradicts her self in being strongly pro abortion like the rest of the Libertarians.



Nietzsche's moral philosophy is primarily critical in orientation: he attacks morality both for its commitment to untenable descriptive (metaphysical and empirical) claims about human agency, as well as for the deleterious impact of its distinctive norms and values on the flourishing of the highest types of human beings (Nietzsche's “higher men”)

Ayn Rand adored this hedonist.

The Libertarians are crazy. They hammer on no taxes.
The tax to be a member is 25 bucks. I guess if you are phony to the core, you won't notice they contradict themselves.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Socialite

HAVE YOU READ IT? *crickets*

Didn't think so. So don't presume to know what you wrote, and certainly don't assume a dismissive position of something you are ignorant of.

You clearly don't understand the philosophy behind free market/limited government.

Nietzche was one of 3 philosophers she was influenced by. Aristotle and Socrates were the others. But what's that have to do with anything? We are talking about her taking over your church. We are talking role of government -- including the government's role in an economy.

"It" doesn't come up in economics classes. Try history or philosophy.

You trying to do bait posts because you are hiding from posting something about non fiction economics for the Libertarian party?

You entertain me. Living in a fantasy world driven by an author of fiction.

No wonder you struggle between reality and utopia.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Socialite

How is that a dishonest claim????????


Influence.

His "science" and "philosophy" were not mutually exclusive. Greenspan's philosophical ideas of limited government harmonized with his "scientific" views of free market economy.

The only dishonest claims here are the subtle hint that Rand did not graduate, when she did in October 1924. But the claims of influence to Greenspan aren't her claims, they are Al's! Take that up with him! He obviously doesn't think she's ignorant and unlearned!

In fact, Greenspan was a huge Rand fan, serving on her "inner circle" called the "Ayn Rand Collective." 30 years of close friendship including having her stand beside him at his 1974 swearing in as Chair of the Council of Economic Advisers.

You error in saying free market ideology is mutually exclusive of economic "science."
So yeah... let's talk about "dishonest claims"

You don't know anything about Greenspan. Remember, you haven't posted 2 sentences on economics pertaining to Libertarians.

But where is the free market ideology science book? Your lips are flappin' and you never seem to show any 'science"..

Bill Clinton also had friends standing next to his swearing events. And that proves what?

You seem to have no logic either.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Socialite

No, that's not what I admit. Why do you just about ALWAYS put words in people's mouth?

How are Libertarians liberals? Are you confused? Slap yourself a few times and see if that works... maybe it will get you unstuck.

People that are impressed with Ron Paul are ignorant? Really? That's all you have? He is retarded in economics? Nothing of substance to anything you are saying.

Ayn Rand's objectivism is a false philosophy, but to dismiss her like that (without ever reading her works) is foolishness. There's a reason she's on most Top 25 reading lists. She's also the philosophical substance behind even those more liberal than herself: people like Rush Limbaugh and Mike Savage. See, she has a diverse fan base.

Ayn is worthless? Have you read any of her books? You speak like an ignorant ass. (I know you haven't read her works because you previously responded you didn't know who she was). One of the most influential voices against the economic idea of Socialism.

Please point out her contradictions... or SOME substance. I have no idea what you are taking issue with and what your issue is, or what your solution is. You just babble, babble, babble....

Sure a lot of unsupported assertions.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Socialite

Yeah, that Socrates guy was a dope too.

Michael Moore doesn't hold a candle to the influence of Ayn Rand. The influence of her philosophy has never been lost.

Again, you've never read her work, so really your opinion means squat. You've already shown how much of an ignoramus you are.

So what exactly was her economic platform? Can we read it somewhere other than her writings of fiction?

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Socialite

How is that a dishonest claim????????


Influence.

His "science" and "philosophy" were not mutually exclusive. Greenspan's philosophical ideas of limited government harmonized with his "scientific" views of free market economy.

The only dishonest claims here are the subtle hint that Rand did not graduate, when she did in October 1924. But the claims of influence to Greenspan aren't her claims, they are Al's! Take that up with him! He obviously doesn't think she's ignorant and unlearned!

In fact, Greenspan was a huge Rand fan, serving on her "inner circle" called the "Ayn Rand Collective." 30 years of close friendship including having her stand beside him at his 1974 swearing in as Chair of the Council of Economic Advisers.

You error in saying free market ideology is mutually exclusive of economic "science."

So yeah... let's talk about "dishonest claims"

Good topic for a new thread. Under oath, Greenspan admits it was kinda dumb.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/24/bu...anel.html?_r=1

“Those of us who have looked to the self-interest of lending institutions to protect shareholders’ equity, myself included, are in a state of shocked disbelief,” he told the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.