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Old 07-15-2010, 04:02 PM
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The Son is not unlimited? How can the Son be limited and also be fully God?
He is limited in his weakness of human capacity. He though is not limited in access to the divine should he need. As Jesus said to us. IF you ask anything in my name I will do it. Jesus would have asked accordingto the will of God. As John said

3Jn 1:2 Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.

in some sense this would be true with humanity as he grew in knowledge and strength he prospered. So his will and the Father's will where in harmony. As I explained.... depends on what you are calling fully God. All the fulness of the deity dwelled in him bodily. Yet he was still a limited man. If you are saying. HEre is the son limited and here is the Father divine and they make up the man JEsus. That makes him not fully God. In part this is true ONLY in the sense that being Jesus is more than just God but man as well. That does not mean he is less as a "being" in his total than God. As the Father resides in that being.




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In what sense is he divine or holy but not in the sense of God's attributes of divineness or holiness?
Well in two ways... obedience and his role in God's plan have set him apart. Thus that is "divine" in nature but not necessarily make him God. He has aspects of Godliness by his submission to God's perfection. The footsteps of a righteous man are ordered by the Lord. Thus his walk is divine as obedience is absolute holiness and godliness but still does not make him God but puts him in perfection with God. So in part the flesh was divine but not in the same sense of eternal aspects of being and overall existance.

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Old 07-15-2010, 04:03 PM
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Too bad I've already received PM's from people that have had the SAME problem with you, Prax. We were all having a legit godhead discussion on here...
We WERE and I asked you not to read stuff into what I said and make this personal. You didn't just want to have a godhead discussion, otherwise you would not have made it personal with me.

I even asked that if you want to just stick to the discussion and not start this personal rant I would be obliged. You did not agree
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Old 07-15-2010, 04:03 PM
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Let me see....I say "I think what I posted was enough if you read it" and you say "Waaah waaah Im frustrated at Praxeas. YOu are bad praxseas! You frustated me"

I say "nobody says xxxx" and you go "waaaah waaaah, Im so frustrated at Praxeas. How dare he say they didn't say XXX, Im going to give him a piece of my mind"?

Really? Oh poor baby soooooo frustrated he has to throw things. Stop making excuses! You are doing exactly as you did before. I didn't say anything about you or to you on a personal level and you claim "frustration" as your excuse to try to attack my character. Just like before Max.
I didn't say "Waaah Waaah You're bad Prax." Don't MISQUOTE ME, PRAX!!!!!

I commented on your attitude and continued my post. That's what happened. Don't make things up.

You seriously have major issues.

You need to be removed as an ADMIN. Period. I'll be disappointed if you're not. It's a little too much for you.
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Old 07-15-2010, 04:04 PM
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Oh poor baby soooooo frustrated he has to throw things. Stop making excuses! You are doing exactly as you did before. I didn't say anything about you or to you on a personal level and you claim "frustration" as your excuse to try to attack my character. Just like before Max.
Still stuck on the past, Prax. Why not quit connecting it to the past and admit you have interpersonal communication issues.
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Old 07-15-2010, 04:07 PM
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I didn't say "Waaah Waaah You're bad Prax." Don't MISQUOTE ME, PRAX!!!!!

I commented on your attitude and continued my post. That's what happened. Don't make things up.

You seriously have major issues.

You need to be removed as an ADMIN. Period. I'll be disappointed if you're not. It's a little too much for you.
waaah waaah,. Praxeas won't let me attack him so he must have major issues..good grief.

You accused me of having an attitude, that I did not have. I thought we were having a conversation on the godhead. You chose to make it personal.

As I said, you read something into my post that was not there and chose that as an opportunity to,once again, make it personal.
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Old 07-15-2010, 04:09 PM
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Still stuck on the past, Prax. Why not quit connecting it to the past and admit you have interpersonal communication issues.
Im waiting for you to agree you just want to discuss the topic a not make personal comments about each other.
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Old 07-15-2010, 04:09 PM
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Guys seriously PM each other. sheessh
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waaah waaah,. Praxeas won't let me attack him so he must have major issues..good grief.

You accused me of having an attitude, that I did not have. I thought we were having a conversation on the godhead. You chose to make it personal.

As I said, you read something into my post that was not there and chose that as an opportunity to,once again, make it personal.
You're the one riding the Wambulance right now. I'm just holding you accountable as an Admin.

And no, I won't allow you to attack me. I will respond.

You made it personal when you told me I would understand if I was reading. That was personal. That was away from the topic. If you weren't having an attitude you could have explained and moved on.

YOU is a personal word. When you said the word YOU, it applies to ME. That's called language, Prax. I wasn't offended. I addressed what felt like an attitude and continued to move on to the points at hand.

Either way, there's no excuse for an Admin to use Admin info to publicly out a poster he is having a personal squabble with.
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Old 07-15-2010, 04:11 PM
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Guys seriously PM each other. sheessh
This is staying public.
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Im waiting for you to agree you just want to discuss the topic a not make personal comments about each other.
WTH?
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