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Originally Posted by Falla39
Yes, because Paul knew who had taught him the holy scriptures from a child. A godly grandmother and mother.
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Falla, you make my point so well... you see Timothy was taught the HOLY SCRIPTURES from a child. Not traditions of men. If women were required to wear their hair up... the Scriptures would plainly say so. But the Scriptures do not say so and that is why we have saints groaning under this kind of spiritual oppression.
Not everything our great grandpappy taught us is Scripture. We're living in a different generation now Falla. I had a business management and communication class just last year. In it we discussed cross generational communication with previous generations in comparison with generation x and y communication. Your generation values simple obedience. You were essentially taught never to ask questions and admonished to do what you were told. This was a prized value by your generation. You’ll find that older folks never asked, “Why do black people have to ride in the back of the bus?” It was generally accepted that this is “just the way it is” and asking why or challenging the notion was considered revolutionary. Generation X and Y are interesting. They are the most plugged in generation we’ve had. They have a plethora of information that previous generations never had at their fingertips. They can access international libraries over the internet via cell phone. If they want to verify history… it’s at the push of a button. Generations X and Y have different values when it comes to communication. Generations X and Y value knowing “why” they are doing something. If they don’t know or can’t understand “why” they feel like something amiss. They are looking to find fulfillment in what they do. They are looking to know that they are not being lied to or mislead. This is the result of so many different voices, options, views, and all the history of cults and abuse, etc. They are very astute and perhaps the most intelligent generations we’ve had to date. So when a supervisor or business manager asks someone from your generation to do something, they often do it without asking a question. But if a business manager asks generation X or Y to do something the first thing they will hear is, “Why?” Many uninformed supervisors or business managers misinterpret this as being rebellious, undisciplined etc. And when they reprimand or try to tell the generation X or Y person not to ask so many questions, they offend them and only generate the very rebellious behavior they feel they’re trying to stop. Instead, a good leader will realize that this is generation X or Y. They aren’t being undisciplined or rebellious. They are fiercely loyal and all they need is to KNOW that they KNOW and that requires that they ask “why”.
Let’s translate this to church. So when the elders tell the church that a woman must wear her hair uncut and up, guess what… you’re generation just says, “Praise God, that’s the man of God and that’s what I’ll do. No questions.” Generations X and Y say, “Why? Is that Scripture? What’s the purpose? Are you telling us the truth? Give us solid Scripture because we want to
KNOW that we are walking in the ways of the LORD.”
Now… here’s where it gets ugly. If what you said was merely a “tradition” started by great grandpappy, you’re generation will have no problem with it. Don’t rock the boat. Just be obedient. Things will sort themselves out. Don’t sweat the small stuff. Etc. But if the generation X or Y discovers that it’s just a “tradition” and isn’t explicitly found in Scripture… it can rock their faith. Especially if the church claims to only teach Bible. They feel that they’ve discovered dishonesty. They feel betrayed. And now they’ll dig at everything to find out exactly what is or isn’t Scripture. That’s what you’re seeing here. Our generation is boiling away the tradition and dross of previous generations to find the truth. That’s all we want. All we want is the truth. Don’t tell us that a woman has to wear her hair up all the time if that’s not in Scripture. Don’t tell us she’ll go to Hell if she cuts her hair if that’s not in Scripture. Don’t tell us a man will go to Hell for facial hair if that’s not in Scripture. Don’t tell us a woman will go to Hell if a she wears pant if that’s not in Scripture. Don’t tell us a man can’t wear shorts if that’s not in Scripture. Don’t tell us anything accept the WORD. We love and want the WORD.
I was a preacher. I used to preach things that my pastor taught us because it was what I was expected to do. I was teaching people that they’d go to Hell for owning a television or wearing wedding bands, etc. It’s what my elders taught me. But I couldn’t deny my inner values. Was what I was teaching Scripture? I didn’t ask this because I didn’t want to teach it. I asked it because I wanted to know that what I taught the people was true. The deeper I studied things the more I realized that 80% of everything we did was merely traditions and personal interpretations of men. From magic hair on women to no facial hair on men. It was all just a man’s opinion and tradition with no Bible behind it. I said to myself, “Just teach what the elders taught you out of respect for the pulpit.” But that began to keep me up at night. My heart would say, “What about
honesty in the pulpit?” By perpetrating error, I’m dishonoring the pulpit and the Word of God. So I began to voice my questions about some traditions we held. I was immediately black listed and an outcast among the ministry team. Eventually my wife and I had to go to another church. Trying to be true and honest cost me dearly. It cost me a ministry, friends, family (some of my own family won’t talk with me accept briefly). Taking a stand for truth in a church where traditions of men rule the day will leave you in exile.
So Falla, try to understand the generation you’re talking to. Try to understand that we are not being disrespectful. We’re only trying to be true. We have to be. We can’t just teach something because it’s what was taught to us. We have to know there’s book for it.
In closing. We are now returning to the subject of this thread. The whole uncut and hair up requirement business is just another tradition of man. It’s not in the Bible. Some have twisted what the Bible says to justify a tradition. But once the language and culture of the text is properly understood… the truth is glaring. Women are not required to have uncut hair, nor are they required to wear their hair up. Let’s teach the Bible… not human traditions. Let’s start obeying the Lord and stop obeying traditions. Let’s truly move into worshipping the Lord instead of worshipping our worship. Let’s cherish who we are in Him instead of who we are because of the traditions we hold.
We claim the name Aposotlic. Let’s be Apostle-like.
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