How To Go To Hell: An Observation of Cons and Libs

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

AFF is by no means a good, representative cross section of the Apostolic movement.

I would say more if it wouldn't be offensive.

If the pastor you often speak so highly of did this to you, I confess it does create a dilemma in my understanding.

And yes, Elder, you are welcome to disagree with me.

We may be talking past each other here, or just disagree fundamentally on what the definition of "this stuff" is.

I am not referring to Brother Urshan. He is conservative, but balanced.

I am talking about the church I grew up in down in the Ozarks.

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Now attendance numbers are valid .... indicators ... hmm.

No, not really.

That's not what i was saying at all.

I was in fact disputing his premise that growth was any kind of an idicator like that.

You can do a better job of reading comprehension than that, Dan.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

I am your elder, so I guess its okay for me to disagree with you.

I grew up in that brand of conservatism. I was a good kid who lived in mortal fear for my soul every day. My pastor beat things into our heads that I have never fully recovered from.

I have a large and widespread history with this stuff. You deceive yourself when you say this is minimal. It is not. Look at all the stories on AFF alone. It is a plague.

You know what it is ... PP ... if you complain ... something must be wrong with you ... who cares if you have senses.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by OGIA

If AFF were the norm, we could all agree. Birds of a feather, my friend, do flock together.

Why are you here then? To save us?

Are you one of the birds?

AFF is not a true representation, but there are many posters here who have experienced legalism at its worst.

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

You and I were posting at the same time.

You know what they say about great minds...

I don't know what THEY say about great minds, but there is one great mind who's posts I miss reading....

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by Eliseus

I don't know what THEY say about great minds, but there is one great mind who's posts I miss reading....

Me too, Brother, me too.

But that season has passed away.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Eliseus

I don't know what THEY say about great minds, but there is one great mind who's posts I miss reading....

I'll try to post more.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

No, not really.

That's not what i was saying at all.

I was in fact disputing his premise that growth was any kind of an idicator like that.

You can do a better job of reading comprehension than that, Dan.

Do you really belive that Friend?

We could never measure the amount of people who will never darken our doors because of the image that this "minority" presents as necessary to serve God.

Originally Posted by Steadfast

How can those who know so much go to Hell?

Here lies your answer~ What make you think they know so much!

[Nahum]

Posted by Agape:
Name those heresies

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

That a person must live in mortal fear of crossing some imaginary "holiness" line unknowingly.

That the freakycons brand of "holiness" is equal to repentance, baptism and the infilling of the Holy Ghost and without obedience to a laundry list of extrabiblical rules you are going to go to Hell in a handbasket.

That other United Pentecostals who do not hold to the same fruity principles espoused by the "fence building Pharisees" are lost (including our highest leadership).

The constant desire to find ways to expel people from the kingdom instead of gathering them into it. This is offensive to God, and reeks in His nostrils.

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