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Old 04-15-2009, 01:44 PM
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Re: Is There Valid Law Authorizing Income Taxes?

Well why don't you find a single credible source to back up your view of amending the Constitution?
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Old 04-15-2009, 01:54 PM
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This 2 part clip is quite moving.

America at it's best.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_sZj8dZnJI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hRwkyqycgU
Good video D4T & I agree it was it the best of America.
Imagine those jurors finding that man "not guilty" of not filing an income tax return because when they asked the Judge to show him the law so they can see that he broke it by not filing.

They can't show it because it isn't there!
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Article V
The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress; provided that no amendment which may be made prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any manner affect the first and fourth clauses in the ninth section of the first article; and that no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate.

Notice that an amendment changes the Constitution and the only a very small exception is written in. Never is there expressed the idea that you need an amendment to make an amendment.
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Good video D4T & I agree it was it the best of America.
Imagine those jurors finding that man "not guilty" of not filing an income tax return because when they asked the Judge to show him the law so they can see that he broke it by not filing.

They can't show it because it isn't there!
internet evidence isnt evidence.
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internet evidence isnt evidence.
Unless it is "fact!"

Then it is.
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internet evidence isnt evidence.
The videos were not submitted as evidence.
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BTW, for those who do not watch the film Aaron Russo quotes "Facism" as being "Corporatism".
But your films have no legal authority.

They are uneducated film clips. a waste of time.

Making up words? Like Corporatism? We have laws that allow us to set up various types of corporations, partnerships and sole proprietorships. we have a choice on how to set up entities and register them with our Secretaries of state. Some are from ownership preferences or tax preferences or a corporate veil for legal liability. We really have to avoid youtube for legal advice.
.or tax advice.

Something smells bad Ron. If I break down and watch a tape and find some statements that are not true, legal or accurate, do you want to admit being in support of dishonesty?
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But your films have no legal authority.

They are uneducated film clips. a waste of time.

Making up words? Like Corporatism? We have laws that allow us to set up various types of corporations, partnerships and sole proprietorships. we have a choice on how to set up entities and register them with our Secretaries of state. Some are from ownership preferences or tax preferences or a corporate veil for legal liability. We really have to avoid youtube for legal advice.
.or tax advice.

Something smells bad Ron. If I break down and watch a tape and find some statements that are not true, legal or accurate, do you want to admit being in support of dishonesty?
Have you watched them?
How can you issue a statement on something you haven't seen?
I can't comment on "Gone with the wind" cuz I have never seen it, nor have I read the book--and don't intend to.

Try watching, you may learn something?
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Have you watched them?
How can you issue a statement on something you haven't seen?
I can't comment on "Gone with the wind" cuz I have never seen it, nor have I read the book--and don't intend to.

Try watching, you may learn something?
Are you kidding me?!!!!!! You missed the best part - what Rhett said!

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Ive now watched the first clip. all 10 minutes.

there are 2 points of interest thus far.

first, the lady is talking about Ill. STATE taxes NOT FEDERAL.

second, the supposed trial that is discussed is not mentioned in a way that anyone could go to the state records and prove the event ever actually happened. All we have is a person on video stating it did.

yall gotta do better.
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