Praying People Through - Page 10

Scott Hutchinson · #91 03-10-2009, 10:47 AM

For all interested.
http://www.stegerfac.org/html/speaking_in_tongues_.html

pelathais · #92 03-10-2009, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by coadie

How can I tell if a cold denomination that observes no events of glossalalia is any different than a Muslim congregation?

Paul was silent on "cold denominations" and "Muslims." He did tell us however one of the characteristics of "madness." Your thoughts...?

coadie · #93 03-10-2009, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by pelathais

Paul was silent on "cold denominations" and "Muslims." He did tell us however one of the characteristics of "madness." Your thoughts...?

No reference to madness by paul in my bible.

pelathais · #94 03-10-2009, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

Actually Paul did not say that the congregation in Corinth was mad,he said if a unbeliever comes amongs't a congregation and all speak with tongues that would be the unbeliever's reaction.
If everybody in a congregation speaks in tongues addressing a congregation all at once,that would be out of order,but don't throw the baby out with the bathwater either.
Please Read 1 COR.12,13,14 in context.

Paul told us what would be perceived as "madness" and we, for whatever reasons, seek to emulate it. I'm not saying, "Forbid to speak in tongues;" not by any means.

I'm just asking why do we do the things that Paul at least appeared to compare to "madness?"

I've been in services with groups where just about the entire congregation would sing together in tongues. It was beautiful and moving. I imagine it must have also beeen very compelling to any unbelievers present. I don't have a problem with tongues or even lift up our voices together in worship and prayer - what I am interested in is the subject of "madness" as described by Paul.

Scott Hutchinson · #95 03-10-2009, 10:57 AM

I echo Paul's sentiments here.
I thank my God I speak with tongues more than you all,yet in the church I would rather speak five words with my understanding that I may teach others also,than ten thousand words in a tongue. 1.COR.14:18

Here is a another interesting article.
http://brothermel.com/theboogeymanca...setongues.aspx

Scott Hutchinson · #96 03-10-2009, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by pelathais

Paul told us what would be perceived as "madness" and we, for whatever reasons, seek to emulate it. I'm not saying, "Forbid to speak in tongues;" not by any means.

I'm just asking why do we do the things that Paul at least appeared to compare to "madness?"

I've been in services with groups where just about the entire congregation would sing together in tongues. It was beautiful and moving. I imagine it must have also beeen very compelling to any unbelievers present.

If you read the whole of 1.COR.12 Apostle Paul is talking giving messages in tongues in a congreagational setting.

pelathais · #97 03-10-2009, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by coadie

No reference to madness by paul in my bible.

1 Corinthians 14:22-23. Perhaps your pages are sticking together.

TRFrance · #98 03-10-2009, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by KWSS1976

TR I don't think we have any peters or johns or pauls running around these days they did pray for them hand that to ya but that was for there time so if you want to play any of these charaters go ahead I know god has not given me the power to lay hands on someone to get the holyghost and I really don't think he has gave the power today to be able to pull off what was done in acts....2000+years ago

You dont think so. Well, lets set aside your personal opinions for a sec. If you have scriptures for this, please share them.

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Originally Posted by KWSS1976

Ok coade if ya think he has made you one of the 12 apostles go ahead cause I far I know there was only 12.

And you presume no one else has ever had that gifting since the 12 apostles? If you have scripture for that, please show it to us.

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Originally Posted by coadie

How can I tell if a cold denomination that observes no events of glossalalia is any different than a Muslim congregation?

Now thats, funny.

TRFrance · #99 03-10-2009, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by KWSS1976

TR I don't think we have any peters or johns or pauls running around these days they did pray for them hand that to ya but that was for there time so if you want to play any of these charaters go ahead I know god has not given me the power to lay hands on someone to get the holyghost and I really don't think he has gave the power today to be able to pull off what was done in acts....2000+years ago

Well, this brings me back to my original question, which you really didnt asnwer directly:

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Originally Posted by TRFrance

So if someone is praying by himself to receive the HG, it's fine.... but if another saint decides pray with him to receive it, that's wrong?

Let me ask it a different way now:

Are you saying that since the Holy Ghost "just happens", a person should not pray [even by himself] to receive the Holy Ghost?

Scott Hutchinson · #**100** 03-10-2009, 11:16 AM

I don't agree with all of this but it is a interesting read.
http://www.brothermel.net/JRW%20Bibl...Experience.pdf