Morning After Pill? Sin? Abortion? Contraception?

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Carpenter

Wrong...Consider the definition of abortion:

Abortion: In medicine, an abortion is the premature exit of the products of conception (the fetus, fetal membranes, and placenta) from the uterus. It is the loss of a pregnancy and does not refer to why that pregnancy was lost.

A spontaneous abortion is the same as a miscarriage. The miscarriage of 3 or more consecutive pregnancies is termed habitual abortion.

http://www.medterms.com/script/main/...rticlekey=2091

Egggh ... wrong again.

The definition has nothing to do with the vast amount of medical data that seems to indicate that a bc pill could theoretically cause an abortion ... and the question then will be if faced w/ this data ... does one knowingly take a pill that some say is designed for various reasons ... including not allowing a fertilized egg to attach ...

here are four ways the pill acts to stop the male gamete reaching an egg (ovum). First, the hormones in the pill try to stop an ovum being released from your ovary each month. This is known as the suppression of ovulation. Research has shown that neither the progesterone-only pill nor the combined progesterone-oestrogen formulations always stop ovulation.

Second, all formulations of the pill cause changes to the cervical mucus that your body produces. The cervical mucus may become thicker and more difficult for sperm to fertilize an ovum.

Third, all formulations of the pill cause changes to the lining of the womb (properly known as the endometrium). Under the influence of the chemicals in the pill, the lining of the womb doesn’t grow to the proper thickness. You will notice that your periods are lighter when you are on the pill. This is because the lining of the womb has not developed properly. But this change also means that the womb is not in the right stage of development to allow a fertilized egg to attach properly.

Fourth, the pill causes changes to the movement of the Fallopian tubes. This effect may reduce the possibility of the ovum being fertilised.

It is very important for you to understand that none of these ways the pill works is completely reliable. Ovulation is not always stopped, cervical mucus does not always stop the movement of sperm the damage to the lining of the womb sometimes allows for implantation to occur, and Fallopian tube activity does not always stop male gamete and ovum from joining to create a new human person.

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Egggh ... wrong again.

The definition has nothing to do with the vast amount of medical data that seems to indicate that a bc pill could theoretically cause an abortion ... and the question then will be if faced w/ this data ... does one knowingly take a pill that some say is designed for various reasons ... including not allowing a fertilized egg to attach ...

The emphasized points make your whole post mean absolutely nothing and begs the question. Ok, so what?

I know you probably don't have the occasion to cross paths with academic and/or clincal principals very often...but cite your references.

[SDG]

Those who believe most BC Pills are abortifacients ... have put out this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiCU46_lWeE

[LadyRev]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Many medicines are retro-active ... Jekyll ....taken after ... the illness has taken effect ...

Most people take medicine because they are sick ... not to avoid getting sick,.

Birth control ... pre or post ... are a different animal to the comparison to medicines you seek to make ...

For one, there is no health "problem" per se.

Ummm...actually, BC pills are commonly used to treat "sickness" and correct health problems.

Endometriosis is just one example of a health problem that is treated with bc pills.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Egggh ... wrong again.

The definition has nothing to do with the vast amount of medical data that seems to indicate that a bc pill could theoretically cause an abortion ... and the question then will be if faced w/ this data ... does one knowingly take a pill that some say is designed for various reasons ... including not allowing a fertilized egg to attach ...

Where in any of those definitions does it say a fertilized egg could be aborted?

If you mean this statement, that's not the way I'm reading it.

"But this change also means that the womb is not in the right stage of development to allow a fertilized egg to attach properly."

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

We will try a variety of contraceptives .... oral and other. Whatever works best.

Has your wife used any oral contraceptives ever?
If so, did you research the fact that the pill can cause abortions and did this cause you to stop?

Bump for Carpenter ... please walk w/ me.

[Jekyll]

Dalice, it would probably help if you made a definitive statement on where you stand. Or, do you believe in nothing concrete?

[SDG]

Originally Posted by LadyRev

Ummm...actually, BC pills are commonly used to treat "sickness" and correct health problems.

Endometriosis is just one example of a health problem that is treated with bc pills.

Yes some use it for schists also...

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Bump for Carpenter ... please walk w/ me.

He's already told you they use BCP's

[nahkoe]

Originally Posted by Jekyll

Do all pre-pregnancy bc pills have the same ability? Those who have responded about those pills have stated that SOME pills have the ability to cause abortion.

My understanding is that the newer medications are a lot more likely to prevent fertilization and not impact implantation the same way the older medications are considered to. The older medications are considered less likely to actually prevent fertilization, and act to also prevent implantation in order to prevent pregnancy.

And like someone else said..do your own research if it matters to you. Just remember it's extremely difficult to find unbiased information about this subject, on either side.

I've done hours and hours of reading about this and decided that for myself, I'm not willing to take the chance regarding birth control pills or other hormonal methods, or IUDs either. Oddly enough, I made that decision while I was also hard core pro-choice. And, unfortunately, it doesn't matter right now. Abstinence really is the best birth control out there.