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Re: What was Paul's thorn in the flesh?
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Absolutely.........Also, at times God reveals why the person you prayed for wasn't healed.
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I DIDN'T HAVE A HAIR CUTTING PARTY!
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Pelathais, I sure hope you don't get banned for telling the truth.
I have seen so many lies posted. The best one is the one Triumphant 1 did his best to combat. You know, the hair cutting party thing?
Prominent members of this board chose to believe the lie and even continue to spread it, even though T1 had totally proved it was false.
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06-10-2008, 04:03 PM
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Re: What was Paul's thorn in the flesh?
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Really?
So, you're saying that anyone who is NOT healed just doesn't have enough faith?
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What did Jesus accuse the people of in the bible which weren't healed?
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if someone has enough faith they will live forever, right?
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Don't dialog if you're not going to use common sense.
Hebrews 9:27
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
If someone has faith, death is still appointed, save the rapture. However, your faith and obedience in God will obtain you eternal life.
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06-10-2008, 04:04 PM
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Re: What was Paul's thorn in the flesh?
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What did Jesus accuse the people pf in the bible which weren't healed?
Don't dialog if you're not going to use common sense.
Hebrews 9:27
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
If someone has faith, death is still appointed, save the rapture. However, your faith and obedience in God will obtain you eternal life. |
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06-10-2008, 04:05 PM
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Re: What was Paul's thorn in the flesh?
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What did Jesus accuse the people pf in the bible which weren't healed?
Don't dialog if you're not going to use common sense.
Hebrews 9:27
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
If someone has faith, death is still appointed, save the rapture. However, your faith and obedience in God will obtain you eternal life. |
Once again, you have avoided my question.
Do YOU believe that if a person has enough faith they will be healed of EVERY illness?
And, if a person is sick and is NOT healed, it's STRICTLY because they do not have enough faith?
Please answer the question, instead of asking me one in return.
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06-10-2008, 04:08 PM
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Re: What was Paul's thorn in the flesh?
Good Lord....what about the thorn....???????????
Will this help...
I believe the thorn was his thoughts.....am I'm debating now so we might get your side sooner than later?????..LOL!
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I DIDN'T HAVE A HAIR CUTTING PARTY!
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
Pelathais, I sure hope you don't get banned for telling the truth.
I have seen so many lies posted. The best one is the one Triumphant 1 did his best to combat. You know, the hair cutting party thing?
Prominent members of this board chose to believe the lie and even continue to spread it, even though T1 had totally proved it was false.
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06-10-2008, 04:10 PM
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Re: What was Paul's thorn in the flesh?
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Originally Posted by 1Corinth2v4
What did Jesus accuse the people of in the bible which weren't healed?
Don't dialog if you're not going to use common sense.
Hebrews 9:27
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
If someone has faith, death is still appointed, save the rapture. However, your faith and obedience in God will obtain you eternal life. |
OH MY!!!
This is just absurd!
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06-10-2008, 04:13 PM
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Re: What was Paul's thorn in the flesh?
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Once again, you have avoided my question.
Do YOU believe that if a person has enough faith they will be healed of EVERY illness?.
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Yes. However, when you read the old testament, you read so and so died "of old age", and there are no specifics but old age.
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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps
And, if a person is sick and is NOT healed, it's STRICTLY because they do not have enough faith?
Please answer the question, instead of asking me one in return.
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According to Jesus, yes!
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06-10-2008, 04:17 PM
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Re: What was Paul's thorn in the flesh?
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Yes. However, when you read the old testament, you read so and so died "of old age", and there are no specifics but old age.
According to Jesus, yes!
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Ok, now we're getting somewhere! I appreciate your honesty.
However, I must ask the question - if it's appointed unto man (and woman) once to die, and a dear saint of God dies from an illness, how do you know that it just wasn't their appointed time?
I mean, who am I to say that everyone is supposed to die of old age?
How do I know that my appointed time will not be due to an illness?
And, what about people who die in accidents? Is it a lack of faith that put them in the wrong place at the wrong time?
What about Stephen, who was stoned to death? Did he not have enough faith?
What about the rest of the apostles who were martyred, did they not have enough faith?
I mean, the variables are endless..........therefore, I have a very difficult time saying that if someone dies of anything other than old age, it's simply because they didn't have enough faith to be healed.
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06-10-2008, 04:21 PM
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Re: What was Paul's thorn in the flesh?
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Yes. However, when you read the old testament, you read so and so died "of old age", and there are no specifics but old age.
According to Jesus, yes!
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Am I being ignored? Oh my.... 
Hello out there...have you been waiting for me?
I just love those old Kathern Koolman (sp?) videos....
I can hear her now..."Jeeeessussss, will heeaallll you alllllllll....but youuu muuuust belieeve...."
Good night...this sounds like 1cor doesn't believe in taking a tylenol for a headache....
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I DIDN'T HAVE A HAIR CUTTING PARTY!
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
Pelathais, I sure hope you don't get banned for telling the truth.
I have seen so many lies posted. The best one is the one Triumphant 1 did his best to combat. You know, the hair cutting party thing?
Prominent members of this board chose to believe the lie and even continue to spread it, even though T1 had totally proved it was false.
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06-10-2008, 04:23 PM
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Cross-examine it!
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Re: What was Paul's thorn in the flesh?
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Am I being ignored? Oh my....
Hello out there...have you been waiting for me?
I just love those old Kathern Koolman (sp?) videos....
I can hear her now..."Jeeeessussss, will heeaallll you alllllllll....but youuu muuuust belieeve...."
Good night...this sounds like 1cor doesn't believe in taking a tylenol for a headache.... |
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