Let's make a deal. According to you, I'm no longer a real Christian, so I'll not stand on that label if it will make you feel better. And so you don't have to call me brother either. It's obvious from talking with you gents that disagreement with you precludes me from being a Christian and even an American. So, maybe that would be an acceptable agreement since disagreeing has cost me my faith, my citizenship, and even my freedom to comment?
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"For I know the plans I have for you, declares the LORD, plans for wholeness and not for evil, to give you a future and a hope." Jeremiah 29:11 (English Standard Version)
I am insulting your insults. You are a pretty nice guy when your not acting as you accuse me of acting....its not the disagreement it is the way you right off peoples suffering and insult personal lives like you are some self righteous morale judge. You tell us we should believe you because you see it and have friends that live it , yet when speak of the same on our side you tell us we are lying or exagerating or confused or you just laugh at people. So I apologize if you feel I have insulted you maybe you should reread your post before you post and think about whether or not you would accept what you are saying.
C'mon man. No need to patronize me. I never said anything about anyone's suffering. I'm sure McCain went through Hell. I see him as a man who should be held in high esteem, but not worthy of the Office of President. Obama is at least faithful to his wife, everything else is just a matter of political opinion.
McCain's still responsible for his actions. He's still a phony conservative.
McCain - A phony conservative who admits to womanizing and committing adultery. He then abandoned his wife to marry his cheep conquest.
Obama - A real liberal who has remained married to his first wife and remained a devoted father to his children.
With Obama the issues are his politics. With McCain, it's both his politics and his character.
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"For I know the plans I have for you, declares the LORD, plans for wholeness and not for evil, to give you a future and a hope." Jeremiah 29:11 (English Standard Version)
C'mon man. No need to patronize me. I never said anything about anyone's suffering. I'm sure McCain went through Hell. I see him as a man who should be held in high esteem, but not worthy of the Office of President. Obama is at least faithful to his wife, everything else is just a matter of political opinion. But he's still responsible for his actions.
You can't pass your personal experience onto everyone brother. You gotta let your feelings about your father go. Its time to bury that and get on with life. Your decisions because of it have you supporting more immoral behavior than McCain could ever promote...
Personally I wanted Huckabee
__________________ You can't reach the world with your talents. People are sick and tired of religious talents. People need a Holy Ghost annointed church with real fruits to reach out and touch their lives. ~ Pastor Burrell Crabtree
In fact I think that the insinuation of "hateful" Pentecostals is coming mostly from the fertile imaginations of bitter, backslidden ex Apostolics who are constantly trying to find a way to justify their actions. ~ strait shooter
C'mon man. No need to patronize me. I never said anything about anyone's suffering. I'm sure McCain went through Hell. I see him as a man who should be held in high esteem, but not worthy of the Office of President. Obama is at least faithful to his wife, everything else is just a matter of political opinion.
McCain's still responsible for his actions. He's still a phony conservative.
McCain - A phony conservative who admits to womanizing and committing adultery. He then abandoned his wife to marry his cheep conquest. Obama - A real liberal who has remained married to his first wife and remained a devoted father to his children.
With Obama the issues are his politics. With McCain, it's both his politics and his character.
most important point of the above post (that is also accurate)
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Obama's position is consistent with current law. Obama hasn't forced a single woman to abort and he admits that these are tough issues. His position is that the government's ability to police abortion is limited, therefore choice and responsibility rests entirely on the woman choosing an abortion.
You see...you guys like to politicize abortion by blaming a political party and not the women who choose it. The government has taken a hands off approach to the matter. Now it's on women. The problem is women are tithe payers and church attendees. Most don't have the guts to tell women who have aborted that their godless murderers from the pulpit. Instead, it's much easier to politicize it and blame the Democrats. And it's important to note here, a growing number of Democrats are becoming pro-life, while a growing number of Republicans are becoming pro-choice. Within the next generation we'll see both parties becoming pro-choice with a pro-life minority voice in each.
No excuse. There are men who have endured worse and remained faithful to their families.
Brother,
Mr Obama wouldn't even vote to ban partial-birth abortions!
Nina
Brother,
Mr Obama wouldn't even vote to ban partial-birth abortions!
Nina
You know, we can debate this across all of these pages and one sister says this and I want to cry. We as men could never understand what this means to a woman. And you can try to write it off all you want to, but if any Republican President could overturn Roe vs Wade and get it to pass, he would. You can't say that about any Democrat, (except maybe Liberman)
__________________ You can't reach the world with your talents. People are sick and tired of religious talents. People need a Holy Ghost annointed church with real fruits to reach out and touch their lives. ~ Pastor Burrell Crabtree
In fact I think that the insinuation of "hateful" Pentecostals is coming mostly from the fertile imaginations of bitter, backslidden ex Apostolics who are constantly trying to find a way to justify their actions. ~ strait shooter
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