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02-03-2008, 03:20 PM
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Re: Purpose Of Being Christian
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1 Corinthians 3:10 KJV According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
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I do not believe the material atop the foundation is people. The entire structure is a believer. A believer has the foundation of Christ in him/her.
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1 Corinthians 3:12-13 KJV (12) Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; (13) Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
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When Paul mentioned wood, hay, stubble, gold, silver and precious stones, that is the material used atop the foundation. It's not people, but doctrines. Fire tries the WORK and determines what shall successfully endure fire. We are the ENTIRE temple.
The temple has a foundation and walls, etc. And the WORK involved in our structure will either be gold, silver and precious stones as the actual temple was, or wood, hay and stubble as in a common home.
But DOCTRINES are what are built upon the foundation, not people. People's Christianity is the entirety of the structure. What DOCTRINES are taught to these people to build up their Christianity? Paul tells the ministers to take how how they build atop the foundation. The entire structure is a person being taught who serves God. Paul put the foundation of Christ in them. And others who come along after Paul must preach proper doctrines upon that foundation.
All false doctrine will fail. Be burned up.
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02-03-2008, 03:24 PM
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Re: Purpose Of Being Christian
Apollos watered with FURTHER TRUTHS. This is parallel to the builders adding doctrines beyond foundational salvation of Christ. He is warning the people about what they preach after he leaves the believers to other ministers. What doctrines they ADD to the temple.
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02-03-2008, 03:49 PM
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Re: Purpose Of Being Christian
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Apollos watered with FURTHER TRUTHS. This is parallel to the builders adding doctrines beyond foundational salvation of Christ. He is warning the people about what they preach after he leaves the believers to other ministers. What doctrines they ADD to the temple.
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Reminds me of this scripture in Galatians 3:5 "He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?"
We can make His doctrine more about law than grace.
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02-03-2008, 04:19 PM
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Re: Purpose Of Being Christian
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Reminds me of this scripture in Galatians 3:5 "He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?"
We can make His doctrine more about law than grace.
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Awesome reference! Amen!
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02-03-2008, 04:58 PM
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Re: Purpose Of Being Christian
Math.19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.(WORKS)
18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?
21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
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02-03-2008, 05:04 PM
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Re: Purpose Of Being Christian
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Math.19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.(WORKS)
18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?
21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
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Always quoting and never getting the point. heh heh.
Jesus was HINTING to the young ruler that no one, including the rich young ruler, can be good. The young ruler asked Jesus what good thing would give him eternal life. Jesus knew the law could never be obeyed successfully without error. The bible teaches that. So when the young man missed the hint, Jesus told him to sell all he had and give to the poor. The kid could not do that.
The disciples GOT THE POINT!
Matthew 19:25 KJV When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved?
So Jesus gave the answer the young man was seeking and the disciples when he said:
Matthew 19:26 KJV But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
Man CANNOT work to get eternal life. ONLY GOD can do that sort of thing. With man, it is impossible.
Bro., that is New Testament 101!
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02-03-2008, 05:07 PM
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Re: Purpose Of Being Christian
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Always quoting and never getting the point. heh heh.
Jesus was HINTING to the young ruler that no one, including the rich young ruler, can be good. The young ruler asked Jesus what good thing would give him eternal life. Jesus knew the law could never be obeyed successfully without error. The bible teaches that. So when the young man missed the hint, Jesus told him to sell all he had and give to the poor. The kid could not do that.
The disciples GOT THE POINT!
Matthew 19:25 KJV When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved?
So Jesus gave the answer the young man was seeking and the disciples when he said:
Matthew 19:26 KJV But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
Man CANNOT work to get eternal life. ONLY GOD can do that sort of thing. With man, it is impossible.
Bro., that is New Testament 101!
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Amen!!!! Excellent, Brother Blume!!!!!!
Galatians 3:3 "Having begun in the Spirit are you now made perfect by the flesh?" Same thing.
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02-03-2008, 05:11 PM
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Re: Purpose Of Being Christian
We get a spark of faith to believe in Jesus so what do we do ? We do the work of repentance,repent is to turn from our sin,turn from sin ,boy that IS work,try it sometime.Are we saved yet ? No.We must then do the work of being baptized,that is not hard work like turning from sin but it's a work.Are we saved yet NO.We need filled with the Holy Ghost.Are we saved yet ? No.We must endure till the end to be saved,Now that is work.Faith works by love.Love is a work of faith.
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02-03-2008, 05:18 PM
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Re: Purpose Of Being Christian
Acts.26
[20] But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.
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02-03-2008, 10:42 PM
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Re: Purpose Of Being Christian
Off topic, J.
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