Fruit of The Spirit Not Enough - We Need Apostolic

[DAII]

Originally Posted by Berkley

kay..

Gotcha. Don't disagree.
You know the answer to this.

This is part of the answer.

The fruit is the Spirit's ... but now we have to call it apostolic fruit and apostolic identity to make folks ... FEEL SPECIAL ...

or they might realize the church down the street has the same fruit ... but don't worship or look like you or exactly believe like you?

You expect them to show love and self-control yet you constantly drumbeat a judgmental and often imbalanced core value about worship and the gifts...
it lacks balance and is duplicitous

Is that clear in the polar Canadian regions ... or am I still missing YOUR POINT about YOUR INDIVIDUAL CHURCH CULTURE?

Words reflect the value of a culture .... when the fruit, other terms and every other abstract concept is shaped incessantly through this adjective .... it is constantly pointing to the paradigm .... then the focus is not on Him .... but us.

[RevDWW]

Originally Posted by DAII

The fruit is the Spirit's ... but now we have to call it apostolic fruit and apostolic identity to make folks ... FEEL SPECIAL ...

or they might realize the church down the street has the same fruit ... but don't worship or look like you or exactly believe like you?

You expect them to show love and self-control yet you constantly drumbeat a judgmental and often imbalanced core value about worship and the gifts...
it lacks balance and is duplicitous

Is that clear in the polar Canadian regions ... or am I still missing YOUR POINT about YOUR INDIVIDUAL CHURCH CULTURE?

Words reflect the value of a culture .... when the fruit, other terms and every other abstract concept is shaped incessantly through this adjective .... it is constantly pointing to the paradigm .... then the focus is not on Him .... but us.

The Apostles are not the root, Jesus is.......just say'n.......

Why not let the fruit identify the fruit bearer?
I've nothing against things Apostolic but the Apostles are not the source, they are branches of His root.