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03-08-2010, 07:17 PM
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Enseyian Logic: God Made Mistake with Facial Hair
In JR Ensey's new March blog edition, in addition to another emergent rant, JR, asks some poignant questions
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Does anyone wonder why the New York Yankee baseball players are not permitted to wear facial hair and long hair? And why almost all men in the financial world avoid wearing facial hair? Because studies have shown that men who wear facial are not as trusted as those do not since it is often viewed as a “mask.” (For more information about the wearing of facial hair, order the book Facial Hair: A Christian Perspective from advanceministries.org.)
Would God also expect us to look as good as we are when we are representing Him in public?
http://jrenseyblog.wordpress.com/2010/03/
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Did God make a mistake, JR, in allowing facial hair to grow naturally on our faces? A cosmic tease? Were OT and NT men living behind "masks"?
And does he think that this study is why King George doesn't allow his ballplayers to wear facial hair?
Are these books flying of the shelves?
Are you SERIOUS?
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03-08-2010, 07:23 PM
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Re: Enseyian Logic: God Made Mistake with Facial H
It really, really, really bugs me that men are supposed to look to the world to see what is acceptable, and copy that. But, women are not. Women are forbidden from "looking like the world".
This facial hair thing is one of the most glaring double-standards ever.
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03-08-2010, 07:32 PM
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Re: Enseyian Logic: God Made Mistake with Facial H
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Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*
It really, really, really bugs me that men are supposed to look to the world to see what is acceptable, and copy that. But, women are not. Women are forbidden from "looking like the world".
This facial hair thing is one of the most glaring double-standards ever.
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Wow. Always love your common sense take on things.
His assertion that God wants us to look as good as we are ... goes back to what you have said about the obsession over"the look", in the previous posts.
These men have a 1950's snapshot of what Apostolic looks and dresses like, for all time, and have confused it with the Holiness of the Almighty.
Is Papa Gray ... hiding behind a mask, Elder Ensey?
He's the conservative ... YOU'RE THE LIBERAL!
And while we're at it ... why is it we don't find a record of Apostolic women "reminding" God of their uncut hair vows anywhere in the Wesleyan tradition?
Does this facial hair standard apply to Apostolics of other cultures as well?
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03-08-2010, 07:44 PM
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Re: Enseyian Logic: God Made Mistake with Facial H
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Originally Posted by DAII
In JR Ensey's new March blog edition, in addition to another emergent rant, JR, asks some poignant questions
Did God make a mistake, JR, in allowing facial hair to grow naturally on our faces? A cosmic tease? Were OT and NT men living behind "masks"?
And does he think that this study is why King George doesn't allow his ballplayers to wear facial hair?
Are these books flying of the shelves?
Are you SERIOUS?
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So now we make arguments for how men should act based on what the Yankees do?
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03-08-2010, 07:45 PM
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Re: Enseyian Logic: God Made Mistake with Facial H
If women must have long, uncut hair and wear skirts because God cares about the distinction between the sexes..... what is more distinctly masculine than a beard?
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03-08-2010, 07:45 PM
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Re: Enseyian Logic: God Made Mistake with Facial H
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So now we make arguments for how men should act based on what the Yankees do?
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Shall we start with A-Rod?
Although we are champions and the Yanks are too.
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03-08-2010, 07:47 PM
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Re: Enseyian Logic: God Made Mistake with Facial H
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If women must have long, uncut hair and wear skirts because God cares about the distinction between the sexes..... what is more distinctly masculine than a beard?
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Of course, in OT times it was just as shameful not to have a beard for a male as shaving a man or women's head bald.
Abraham would think us manly men without beards are a bunch of sissies without whiskers.
Distinction seems to apply to woman only in this culture ... it breeds sexism, imo.
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03-08-2010, 07:48 PM
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Re: Enseyian Logic: God Made Mistake with Facial H
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Shall we start with A-Rod?
Although we are champions and the Yanks are too.
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I am thinking after the next blowout service we pass around bottles of champagne and spray each other with them in celebration.
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03-08-2010, 07:51 PM
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Re: Enseyian Logic: God Made Mistake with Facial H
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I am thinking after the next blowout service we pass around bottles of champagne and spray each other with them in celebration.
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Just don't try the managerial pat on the rear, Sparky.
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03-08-2010, 07:52 PM
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Re: Enseyian Logic: God Made Mistake with Facial H
After reading the blog entry, he makes valid points for his position. It is not a position I take, but those are his reasonings and they are perfectly valid for him.
I have had a feeling growing lately, however, that if we really believe in women and men looking different, then facial hair should be acceptable, even encouraged for men. It is perfectly natural, the vast majority of women do not have it, and would further enhance the distinction of a man and woman. One might go as far say that a man shaving his face causes him to look more feminine.
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