Milk or Meat Sermons?

rgcraig · #1 10-28-2009, 10:54 AM

So not to hijack another thread I'm starting this one.

Listening online to several messages from various churches lately it seems they all seem to be focused on staying true to our Apostolic roots, standards, being different, etc.

Shouldn't this stuff be handled on Wednesday nights with just the saints or maybe even in a new converts class and move on to the MEAT of the WORD?

A list of sermon series that I've been privileged to listen to in person or on line that seem more like meat (to me) and are VERY Biblically based are:

Impossible is Unacceptable
The Spirit Empowered Life
Changing Lives to Change Our World
Successful Relationships
Tested by Fire
It's All About the Journey
Praise on Purpose

Maybe they don't cause the shouting and amening that so many expect, but they are life lessons straight from the Bible that make a difference in my daily life and equip me to reach others.

*AQuietPlace* · #2 10-28-2009, 10:56 AM

Giving to the poor
Charity
The fruits of the spirit

Digging4Truth · #3 10-28-2009, 10:59 AM

The first step would be convincing most of apostolic christendom that these things are the meat and the standards are the milk.

That would be one great step forward.

*AQuietPlace* · #4 10-28-2009, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

The first step would be convincing most of apostolic christendom that these things are the meat and the standards are the milk.

That would be one great step forward.

Indeed.

D. Wright · #5 10-28-2009, 11:13 AM

I believe we have missed the mark in this area.

Jeffrey · #6 10-28-2009, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

So not to hijack another thread I'm starting this one.

Listening online to several messages from various churches lately it seems they all seem to be focused on staying true to our Apostolic roots, standards, being different, etc.

Shouldn't this stuff be handled on Wednesday nights with just the saints or maybe even in a new converts class and move on to the MEAT of the WORD?

A list of sermon series that I've been privileged to listen to in person or on line that seem more like meat (to me) and are VERY Biblically based are:

Impossible is Unacceptable
The Spirit Empowered Life
Changing Lives to Change Our World
Successful Relationships
Tested by Fire
It's All About the Journey
Praise on Purpose

Maybe they don't cause the shouting and amening that so many expect, but they are life lessons straight from the Bible that make a difference in my daily life and equip me to reach others.

Actually to be fair to Paul's words about "milk and meat," Paul referred to the preaching of their salvation as milk and to matters concerning Christian Living (mature things) as meat. Ironic isn't it.

And I agree with you about the over-emphasis and obsession with some of these things in our pulpits, particularly the "apostolic" brand and stamp on things that are not absolute, focusing more on particulars than the spirit of the matter.

Jeffrey · #7 10-28-2009, 11:15 AM

And of course we read Paul's words in the context of a church that regarded itself as so super-spiritual that holy living was not necessary... so take it for what it's worth. Not many pastors are leading a flock that mirrors Corinth.

D. Wright · #8 10-28-2009, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

The first step would be convincing most of apostolic christendom that these things are the meat and the standards are the milk.

That would be one great step forward.

You have a point Digging. How many have we lost because we do not preach the meat.

*AQuietPlace* · #9 10-28-2009, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffrey

Actually to be fair to Paul's words about "milk and meat," Paul referred to the preaching of their salvation as milk and to matters concerning Christian Living (mature things) as meat. Ironic isn't it.

And I agree with you about the over-emphasis and obsession with some of these things in our pulpits, particularly the "apostolic" brand and stamp on things that are not absolute, focusing more on particulars than the spirit of the matter.

Only in a few places did Paul tie Christian Living into a dress code. Mostly it was about conduct, attitude, judgmentalism.

rgcraig · #10 10-28-2009, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffrey

Actually to be fair to Paul's words about "milk and meat," Paul referred to the preaching of their salvation as milk and to matters concerning Christian Living (mature things) as meat. Ironic isn't it.

And I agree with you about the over-emphasis and obsession with some of these things in our pulpits, particularly the "apostolic" brand and stamp on things that are not absolute, focusing more on particulars than the spirit of the matter.

That's correct, but I think you know what I'm trying to say.