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10-28-2008, 06:23 AM
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Grace Verse Legalism
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Let's reason together as brothers and sisters in Christ. Can we? Shall we?
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Galatians isn't the only book where we are told as Christians/Christ followers to not take back the yoke of the law with its regulations and rules because it makes the grace of God to no effect. This is also contained in Romans, Galatians, Ephesians, and today I read in Colossians Chapter 2:13: When you who were dead in your sins and in the circumcision of your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, having cancelled the written code, with its regulatians, that was against us and that stood opposed to us; He took it away, nailing it to the cross. And having disarmed the powers and authoritities, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross.
Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabboth day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ. Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you for the prize. Such a person goes into great detail about what he has seen, and his unspiritual mind puffs him up with idle notions. He has lost connection with the Head, from whom the whole body, supported, and held together by its ligaments and sinews, grows as God causes it to grow.
Since you died with Christ to the basic principles of this world, why, as though you still belonged to it, do you submit to its rules; Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!? These are all destined to perish with use, because they are based on human commands and teachings. Such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility, and their harsh treatment of the body, butt they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence.
I would like to discuss this issue without name calling, judgments about my character or anyone else's. Let's look together at the word of God. It is too easy when one has no answer to throw stones and someone you consider lesser than yourself. We are all levelled at the foot of the cross.
In God's grip,
Rhoni
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10-28-2008, 07:29 AM
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Re: Grace Verse Legalism
Rhoni, i recall "hearing or ereading" one time that ABI at one time did not teach or cover the book of Romans in their curiculum.
The reason being, they just didn't know how to explain away Pauls message there about grace in light of the legalism that they taught.
Anyone ever hear of this before ? I don't recall where i heard it.
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10-28-2008, 07:46 AM
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Re: Grace Verse Legalism
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Originally Posted by freeatlast
Rhoni, i recall "hearing or ereading" one time that ABI at one time did not teach or cover the book of Romans in their curiculum.
The reason being, they just didn't know how to explain away Pauls message there about grace in light of the legalism that they taught.
Anyone ever hear of this before ? I don't recall where i heard it.
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Freeatlast,
I never heard that. I do know that for many years ABI was the only school where you could get good Bible Doctrine teaching.
Blessings, Rhoni
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10-28-2008, 08:04 AM
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Re: Grace Verse Legalism
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Originally Posted by Rhoni
Freeatlast,
I never heard that. I do know that for many years ABI was the only school where you could get good Bible Doctrine teaching.
Blessings, Rhoni
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When I was at ABI (over half a century ago) we considered ourselves to be the best for doctrinal teaching. We considered PBI at Tupelo to be "loose" on doctrine because they were one-steppers. And we considered AC in Tulsa to be radical because they were against Coca Cola and wedding rings.
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10-28-2008, 08:11 AM
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Re: Grace Verse Legalism
Is "Freedom from Legalism" the same thing as GRACE?
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10-28-2008, 08:25 AM
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Re: Grace Verse Legalism
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Is "Freedom from Legalism" the same thing as GRACE?
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It doesn't define it, but it means we are set free from legalism because of the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ.
What the law, rules and regulations could not do - Christ did. He freed us from the law. We are saved by His grace because none of us are worthy and if we try to prove our worth by submitting to all these manmade traditions we are nullifying the grace of God. Jesus Christ is enough.
Blessings, Rhoni
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10-28-2008, 08:40 AM
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Re: Grace Verse Legalism
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When I was at ABI (over half a century ago) we considered ourselves to be the best for doctrinal teaching. We considered PBI at Tupelo to be "loose" on doctrine because they were one-steppers. And we considered AC in Tulsa to be radical because they were against Coca Cola and wedding rings.
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Sam,
What did ABI teach about the grace of God?
Blessings, Rhoni
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10-28-2008, 08:44 AM
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Re: Grace Verse Legalism
I always thought of "Grace" as being that continued unwarranted forgiveness of my imperfections...
And "freedom from legalism" comes with the realization of "Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth."
Kinda the same?
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10-28-2008, 08:45 AM
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Re: Grace Verse Legalism
I love grace. It is God who made us righteous and not any act of our's.
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10-28-2008, 08:47 AM
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Re: Grace Verse Legalism
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I love grace. It is God who made us righteous and not any act of our's.
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