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Old 05-28-2008, 10:14 AM
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The Difference

Read this elsewhere, and wanted to share it here.


The Difference


John McCain, Hillary Clinton, and Barak Obama were walking down a Washington DC street when they came upon a homeless man.

John McCain gave the man his business card and told him to come to his office for a job. He then took 20 dollars out of his pocket and gave it to the man.

Hillary was very impressed, so when they came upon another homeless person, she decided to help.
She walked over to him and gave him directions to the welfare office. She then reached into John McCain's pocket and took out $20. She kept $15 for her administrative fees and gave the homeless man $5.

When they came upon yet another homeless person, Barak told him to "have hope...change is coming..." and gave him nothing.

Now do you understand the difference?
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Old 05-28-2008, 10:19 AM
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The Rest of the Story

The man comes to his office where security detains the left wing wacko who is arrested for illegal soliciting and harassment.

Headline reads: McCain mugged by homeless man. Suspect Detained.

McKain holds a press conference to play "victim" and calls for a town hall meeting about tougher law enforcement and the homeless "problem".

What else should we expect from a flip-flopper/waffler non-principled politico.
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Some of McWaffles' Flip Flops:



Jerry Falwell


McCain used to dismiss Jerry Falwell as an "agent of intolerance," but later gave the commencement speech at his university.

Free Speech

McCain, until recently, was pushing for a reform law that would require conservative groups to reveal their financial donors. But, after fielding protests from evangelical Christians and antiabortion activists, McCain decided last month to strip out the provision.
McCain in 2000 assailed Bush's proposed tax cuts as a sop to the rich, and a year later, with Bush in office, he voted against those cuts, declaring that "the benefits go to the most fortunate among us, at the expense of middle-class Americans." But a year ago, he switched sides and voted to extend tax cuts for the wealthy.
McCain in 1999 said that, "even in the long term," he would not support the repeal of Roe v. Wade because "thousands of young American women would be performing illegal and dangerous operations." But last November he said that he now favored repeal because "I don't believe the Supreme Court should be legislating in the way that they did on Roe v. Wade."
McCain in 2000 was incensed when a pair of Texas businessmen, Sam and Charley Wyly, bankrolled some Bush-friendly TV ads that distorted McCain's record. McCain declared at the time that their "dirty money" did not belong in national politics. But last year, McCain decided that their dirty money belonged in his campaign; he took $20,000 and allowed them to chair a McCain fund-raiser. (McCain later had to give back the money, because, it turns out, his new friends are reportedly under federal investigation.)
McCain, who has long deplored negative politics, defended John Kerry in 2004 when the Democratic candidate's war record was being impugned by the Swift Boaters. But today, one of McCain's top advisers is GOP hardball specialist Terry Nelson, who has worked as a consultant with one of the principal Swift Boaters. Nelson also produced the notorious '06 TV ad that implied, in the Tennessee Senate race, that the black Democratic candidate cavorted with white women.
McCain has voted against a federal constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage, but last fall, regarding his own state, he supported an Arizona referendum that would have banned gay marriage.
McCain in 2006 suggested that creationism was not a fit topic for the schoolroom: "I respect those who think the world was created in seven days. Should it be taught as a science class? Probably not." But he suggested the opposite in 2005 ("all points of view should be presented"), and Friday he is scheduled to be the keynote speaker at a confab sponsored by the Discovery Institute, a prominent creationism advocacy group.
The Associated Press broke a story about McCain’s statement in Sept 2007 saying that he is in fact a Baptist, despite his past comments that he is an Episcopalian. The news hook is that McCain made these comments while he was in South Carolina, which happens to have a lot of Baptist voters. In a June 2007 interview with McClatchy Newspapers, the senator said his wife and two of their children have been baptized in North Phoenix Baptist Church, but he had not. “I didn’t find it necessary to do so for my spiritual needs,” he said. He told McClatchy he found the Baptist church more fulfilling than the Episcopalian church, but still referred to himself as an Episcopalian.
Does this matter? On the campaign trail it seems to matter to the self-described straight-talker:
The Associated Press asked McCain on Saturday how his Episcopal faith plays a role in his campaign and life. McCain grew up Episcopalian and attended an Episcopal high school in Alexandria, Va.
“It plays a role in my life. By the way, I’m not Episcopalian. I’m Baptist,” McCain said. “Do I advertise my faith? Do I talk about it all the time? No.”
McCain does discuss faith on the campaign trail. He regularly tells crowds about a North Vietnamese POW guard who would loosen his bindings while he was a prisoner. One Christmas, the man surreptitiously signaled his Christian faith, McCain says, by making the sign of a cross with his toe in the dirt.
McCain said Sunday he doesn’t know how his Baptist faith might affect his showing in South Carolina.
The bigger story here is that McCain is actually talking about his religion. McCain is known for criticizing others for talking about their faith. But back to the particulars of McCain’s statements. There is a simple way of proving one is a Baptist: Has McCain undergone a full-immersion baptism?
As the AP noted, McCain had not been baptized into the Baptist church as of June. The first question a reporter should ask a person claiming to be Baptist is whether they have been baptized into the church. Anyone know the answer to this? Unfortunately, the AP found the politics of McCain’s statement more interesting than what most Baptists in South Carolina are probably wondering.

Abortion:


In NH in 1999 McCain told reporters that "in the short term, or even the long term, I would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade." He explained that overturning Roe would force "women in America to undergo illegal and dangerous operations."
In 2006, campaigning for the GOP nomination as a conservative, McCain said the opposite.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Let me ask one question about abortion. Then I want to turn to Iraq. You're for a constitutional amendment banning abortion, with some exceptions for life and rape and incest.
MCCAIN: Rape, incest and the life of the mother. Yes.
STEPHANOPOULOS: So is President Bush, yet that hasn't advanced in the six years he's been in office. What are you going to do to advance a constitutional amendment that President Bush hasn't done?
MCCAIN: I don't think a constitutional amendment is probably going to take place, but I do believe that it's very likely or possible that the Supreme Court should — could overturn Roe v. Wade, which would then return these decisions to the states, which I support…. Just as I believe that the issue of gay marriage should be decided by the states, so do I believe that we would be better off by having Roe v. Wade return to the states.

Bush Tax Cuts:

McCain used to oppose Bush's tax cuts, but supported them in Feb 2006 in the leadup to the GOP race (opportunism!)
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Personality conflicts:

Evangelical Leadership:
McCain criticized TV preacher Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson as "agents of intolerance" in 2002, but has since "reconciled" and has cozied up quite a bit.

Charles Wyly:

Called Sam and Charles Wyly "currupt", stating that they spent "dirty money" to help finance Bush's presidential campaign. He even filed a complaint against the Wylys for allegedly violating campaign finance law, he also lashed out at them publicly. In April, McCain reached out to the Wylys for support.

Grover Norquist:

McCain's old rhetoric was that Norquist was a crook and a corrupt shill for dictators. When McCain got serious about running for POTUS in 2006 he started a reconcile with Norquist.
(common theme with those personality conflicts . . . "I'll crucify you publicly if it will help me get in front of a TV camera or further my current cause, but I still want your help in becoming POTUS!")

Bob Jones University:

He was against presidential candidates campaigning at Bob Jones University before he was for it.

Torture:

Takes a firm line against torture, but ended up caving to Bush's interpretations.

Kyoto Accord:

Outspoken critic of plan . . . before he decided to support it.

Gay Marriage:

McCain Told Iowa State Students: "I think Gay Marriage should be allowed . . . I don't have any problem with that" . . . after his aide got ahold of him during the commercial break he said "I do not believe that Gay Marriages should be legal"

Ethanol:

McCain was anti-ethanol when he was skipping Iowa in 1999. In 2006 he was pro-ethanol while campaigning in Iowa . Now he's pretty anti-ethanol again that he's decided to bypass Iowa. (THIS ONE IS A TRUE FLIP FLOP . . . Been on both sides of the issue multiple times)

<H2 tocme>Confederate flag:

  • Was both for and against state promotion of the flag in SC during the 1999 race. Said it was "a symbol of racism and slavery" . . . 3 days later he recanted (AKA "pandered") saying "Personally, I see the flag as a symbol of heritage."
****Law of Sea Convention:
Long-time vocal supporter of the Law, now (just this last month) he's against it.


Immigration Reform:

He now opposes the DREAM Act to legalize illegal alien students (though that was previously for it).
Also, he's violently backed off his McCain-Kennedy Immigration bill and is supporting the "Secure the Border First" bill.
Used to support Social Security Benefits for Illegal Immigrants . Now he doesn't.

Ethics Reform / Transparency of 527 donations:

Was hard core for such transparency, before he voted against it in 2006 (cozying up to grassroots activist PACs).

Iraq War:

On VARIOUS news-shows he said an overwhelming and "easy" victory in Iraq was on the way. In Jan 2007 he stated "the American people were led to believe that this would be some kind of walk at the beach; when many of us knew it was going to be long and hard"
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Old 05-28-2008, 10:24 AM
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Some of McWaffles' Flip Flops:



Jerry Falwell


McCain used to dismiss Jerry Falwell as an "agent of intolerance," but later gave the commencement speech at his university.

Free Speech

McCain, until recently, was pushing for a reform law that would require conservative groups to reveal their financial donors. But, after fielding protests from evangelical Christians and antiabortion activists, McCain decided last month to strip out the provision.
McCain in 2000 assailed Bush's proposed tax cuts as a sop to the rich, and a year later, with Bush in office, he voted against those cuts, declaring that "the benefits go to the most fortunate among us, at the expense of middle-class Americans." But a year ago, he switched sides and voted to extend tax cuts for the wealthy.
McCain in 1999 said that, "even in the long term," he would not support the repeal of Roe v. Wade because "thousands of young American women would be performing illegal and dangerous operations." But last November he said that he now favored repeal because "I don't believe the Supreme Court should be legislating in the way that they did on Roe v. Wade."
McCain in 2000 was incensed when a pair of Texas businessmen, Sam and Charley Wyly, bankrolled some Bush-friendly TV ads that distorted McCain's record. McCain declared at the time that their "dirty money" did not belong in national politics. But last year, McCain decided that their dirty money belonged in his campaign; he took $20,000 and allowed them to chair a McCain fund-raiser. (McCain later had to give back the money, because, it turns out, his new friends are reportedly under federal investigation.)
McCain, who has long deplored negative politics, defended John Kerry in 2004 when the Democratic candidate's war record was being impugned by the Swift Boaters. But today, one of McCain's top advisers is GOP hardball specialist Terry Nelson, who has worked as a consultant with one of the principal Swift Boaters. Nelson also produced the notorious '06 TV ad that implied, in the Tennessee Senate race, that the black Democratic candidate cavorted with white women.
McCain has voted against a federal constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage, but last fall, regarding his own state, he supported an Arizona referendum that would have banned gay marriage.
McCain in 2006 suggested that creationism was not a fit topic for the schoolroom: "I respect those who think the world was created in seven days. Should it be taught as a science class? Probably not." But he suggested the opposite in 2005 ("all points of view should be presented"), and Friday he is scheduled to be the keynote speaker at a confab sponsored by the Discovery Institute, a prominent creationism advocacy group.
The Associated Press broke a story about McCain’s statement in Sept 2007 saying that he is in fact a Baptist, despite his past comments that he is an Episcopalian. The news hook is that McCain made these comments while he was in South Carolina, which happens to have a lot of Baptist voters. In a June 2007 interview with McClatchy Newspapers, the senator said his wife and two of their children have been baptized in North Phoenix Baptist Church, but he had not. “I didn’t find it necessary to do so for my spiritual needs,” he said. He told McClatchy he found the Baptist church more fulfilling than the Episcopalian church, but still referred to himself as an Episcopalian.
Does this matter? On the campaign trail it seems to matter to the self-described straight-talker:
The Associated Press asked McCain on Saturday how his Episcopal faith plays a role in his campaign and life. McCain grew up Episcopalian and attended an Episcopal high school in Alexandria, Va.
“It plays a role in my life. By the way, I’m not Episcopalian. I’m Baptist,” McCain said. “Do I advertise my faith? Do I talk about it all the time? No.”
McCain does discuss faith on the campaign trail. He regularly tells crowds about a North Vietnamese POW guard who would loosen his bindings while he was a prisoner. One Christmas, the man surreptitiously signaled his Christian faith, McCain says, by making the sign of a cross with his toe in the dirt.
McCain said Sunday he doesn’t know how his Baptist faith might affect his showing in South Carolina.
The bigger story here is that McCain is actually talking about his religion. McCain is known for criticizing others for talking about their faith. But back to the particulars of McCain’s statements. There is a simple way of proving one is a Baptist: Has McCain undergone a full-immersion baptism?
As the AP noted, McCain had not been baptized into the Baptist church as of June. The first question a reporter should ask a person claiming to be Baptist is whether they have been baptized into the church. Anyone know the answer to this? Unfortunately, the AP found the politics of McCain’s statement more interesting than what most Baptists in South Carolina are probably wondering.

Abortion:


In NH in 1999 McCain told reporters that "in the short term, or even the long term, I would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade." He explained that overturning Roe would force "women in America to undergo illegal and dangerous operations."
In 2006, campaigning for the GOP nomination as a conservative, McCain said the opposite.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Let me ask one question about abortion. Then I want to turn to Iraq. You're for a constitutional amendment banning abortion, with some exceptions for life and rape and incest.
MCCAIN: Rape, incest and the life of the mother. Yes.
STEPHANOPOULOS: So is President Bush, yet that hasn't advanced in the six years he's been in office. What are you going to do to advance a constitutional amendment that President Bush hasn't done?
MCCAIN: I don't think a constitutional amendment is probably going to take place, but I do believe that it's very likely or possible that the Supreme Court should — could overturn Roe v. Wade, which would then return these decisions to the states, which I support…. Just as I believe that the issue of gay marriage should be decided by the states, so do I believe that we would be better off by having Roe v. Wade return to the states.

Bush Tax Cuts:

McCain used to oppose Bush's tax cuts, but supported them in Feb 2006 in the leadup to the GOP race (opportunism!)
Daniel, My post was in jest. I do not think we have ANY good candidates to vote for in this upcoming election. While each of them have a quality, none of their qualities merit a position as President of the USA.
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Daniel, My post was in jest. I do not think we have ANY good candidates to vote for in this upcoming election. While each of them have a quality, none of their qualities merit a position as President of the USA.
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SOME OF OBAMANATION'S FLIP FLOPS


On Nafta Leading Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama has blasted rival Hillary Rodham Clinton for flip-flopping on NAFTA, but, according to the public record, he has also switch positions.

"What the world should interpret is my consistent position, which is I believe in trade," he said after meeting with workers at a manufacturing plant in Ohio. "I just want to make sure that the rules of the road apply to everybody and they are fair and that they reflect the interests of workers and not just corporate profits."

Obama said he opposed NAFTA from the start and U.S. workers were not the only ones to suffer from its effects. Wages and benefits in Mexico had not been improved by the treaty, he said.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...w&pageId=57422

Top Obama Flip-Flops

1. Special interests In January, the Obama campaign described union contributions to the campaigns of Clinton and John Edwards as "special interest" money. Obama changed his tune as he began gathering his own union endorsements. He now refers respectfully to unions as the representatives of "working people" and says he is "thrilled" by their support.
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2. Public financing
Obama replied "yes" in September 2007 when asked if he would agree to public financing of the presidential election if his GOP opponent did the same. Obama has now attached several conditions to such an agreement, including regulating spending by outside groups. His spokesman says the candidate never committed himself on the matter.

3. The Cuba embargo In January 2004, Obama said it was time "to end the embargo with Cuba" because it had "utterly failed in the effort to overthrow Castro." Speaking to a Cuban American audience in Miami in August 2007, he said he would not "take off the embargo" as president because it is "an important inducement for change."

4. Illegal immigration In a March 2004 questionnaire, Obama was asked if the government should "crack down on businesses that hire illegal immigrants." He replied "Oppose." In a Jan. 31, 2008, televised debate, he said that "we do have to crack down on those employers that are taking advantage of the situation."

5. Decriminalization of marijuana
While running for the U.S. Senate in January 2004, Obama told Illinois college students that he supported eliminating criminal penalties for marijuana use. In the Oct. 30, 2007, presidential debate, he joined other Democratic candidates in opposing the decriminalization of marijuana.

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