What does cannot sin mean ?

[Joelel]

Originally Posted by gloryseeker

Your explanation has done well to compartmentalize biblical truths from one another. This is the reason that the Bible speaks of those who are ever learning and never coming to the Knowledge of the truth.

Peter tells us (2 Peter 1:3) that all things have been given to us through the knowledge of Him who has called us. Jesus speaking to the disciples (I think Matt 14) asked who people said that He was. When Peter responded that He was "the Christ (anointed One/Messiah) the Son of the living God" Jesus responded that this came by revelation from the Father and that because of this revelation he was blessed (empowered to succeed). Jesus then said that upon this rock (the revelation of Who He is) would be built a church that the gates of hell could not prevail against.

Hosea prophesied that because of a lack of knowledge God's people are destroyed.

The reason that so many Christians are broke, sick, depressed, addicted, and just getting by is because, as you, they have no understanding of the Jesus, the Word, the Spirit, and the Father and how it all ties in together.

The problem is,everyone thinks their the one God is teaching and everyone else is wrong.The truth is if your deceived you don't know your deceived.So,the bottom line is this might be you.

[gloryseeker]

Originally Posted by Joelel

The problem is,everyone thinks their the one God is teaching and everyone else is wrong.

There is a typo in what you were thinking and what you wrote, so I am not sure exactly what you mean.

Having said that, we shouldn't be moved by every wind of doctrine and at the same time we shouldn't think we have the only corner on the biblical market.

The Bible is complex in that God wrote it. Understanding of it comes through revelation and if you don't have revelation of it then you will get stuck.

If you look through the posts most everyone has said some things you can agree with while some you disagree with.

I have read many of your posts and I disagree with most, but you have argued some points that I agree with you.

I disagree with virtually everything Mblume says about eschatology, but he is obviously very well versed and believes what he is saying. In other areas he has made some very good points that I agree with.

So whose right...me or him? We'll see!

The truth is if your deceived you don't know your deceived.So,the bottom line is this might be you.[/B]

Valid point, but it also works both ways. Are you posting through revelation or deception? If you are deceived you will still think that you have revelation.

[Joelel]

Originally Posted by gloryseeker

There is a typo in what you were thinking and what you wrote, so I am not sure exactly what you mean.

Having said that, we shouldn't be moved by every wind of doctrine and at the same time we shouldn't think we have the only corner on the biblical market.

The Bible is complex in that God wrote it. Understanding of it comes through revelation and if you don't have revelation of it then you will get stuck.

If you look through the posts most everyone has said some things you can agree with while some you disagree with.

I have read many of your posts and I disagree with most, but you have argued some points that I agree with you.

I disagree with virtually everything Mblume says about eschatology, but he is obviously very well versed and believes what he is saying. In other areas he has made some very good points that I agree with.

So whose right...me or him? We'll see!



Valid point, but it also works both ways. Are you posting through revelation or deception? If you are deceived you will still think that you have revelation.

Here you and I disagree once again.I don't see where we need revelation to understand a letter that was written by the apostles to the church.Why would someone write a letter to someone and wouldn't want them to understand ? that's foolishness.To me most of the scripture is very clear,the problem is most just don't believe what it says.Yes many words we need to look up the meanings but I never thought I needed revelation.The bottom line is,if a person is born again he cannot practice sin.So,anyone who still practices sin is not born again.

[gloryseeker]

Originally Posted by Joelel

Here you and I disagree once again.I don't see where we need revelation to understand a letter that was written by the apostles to the church.Why would someone write a letter to someone and wouldn't want them to understand ? that's foolishness.To me most of the scripture is very clear,the problem is most just don't believe what it says.Yes many words we need to look up the meanings but I never thought I needed revelation.The bottom line is,if a person is born again he cannot practice sin.So,anyone who still practices sin is not born again.

Joelel, Joelel, Joelel,

I'll just give you three scriptures:

1 Cor 2:13-14
13 which things we also speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, combining spiritual {thoughts} with spiritual {words.}
14 But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God; for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised. (NAS)

First of all notice verse 13 the words are taught by the Spirit. Therefore, without revelation knowledge you are not going to receive the full truth of the Word.

According to verse 14 you cannot understand the deep things of God through the natural man. The things of the Spirit are spiritually discerned.

Gal 1:11-12
11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ. (KJV)

Notice the word "of" in verse 12 - this revelation was not "from" Jesus it was "of" Jesus. It is obvious that he could have been taught about Jesus, but that was not the case. In fact verse 11 refers to the "gospel" that Paul preached. What Paul was preaching was not textbook knowledge it was revelation of Who Jesus is.

Finally, Jesus' words"

John 5:39
39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. (KJV)

Why did the Jews not know who Jesus was when the scriptures that they searched testified of Him???? Lack of revelation.

The problem (especially with preachers) is they lack revelation of the Word. To many of them use Preachit.org, sermoncentral.com, or denominal talking points to get their messages instead of seeking God and bringing fresh manna to build believers

[Joelel]

Originally Posted by gloryseeker

Joelel, Joelel, Joelel,

I'll just give you three scriptures:

1 Cor 2:13-14
13 which things we also speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, combining spiritual {thoughts} with spiritual {words.}
14 But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God; for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised. (NAS)

First of all notice verse 13 the words are taught by the Spirit. Therefore, without revelation knowledge you are not going to receive the full truth of the Word.

According to verse 14 you cannot understand the deep things of God through the natural man. The things of the Spirit are spiritually discerned.

Gal 1:11-12
11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ. (KJV)

Notice the word "of" in verse 12 - this revelation was not "from" Jesus it was "of" Jesus. It is obvious that he could have been taught about Jesus, but that was not the case. In fact verse 11 refers to the "gospel" that Paul preached. What Paul was preaching was not textbook knowledge it was revelation of Who Jesus is.

Finally, Jesus' words"

John 5:39
39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. (KJV)

Why did the Jews not know who Jesus was when the scriptures that they searched testified of Him???? Lack of revelation.

The problem (especially with preachers) is they lack revelation of the Word. To many of them use Preachit.org, sermoncentral.com, or denominal talking points to get their messages instead of seeking God and bringing fresh manna to build believers

The natural man is the man without the Spirit,he cannot understand.We who have the Spirit and are not carnal can understand.The apostles had the Spirit and understood and wrote the letters with the understanding of the Spirit.If we have the Spirit we have the revelation of the Spirit,we don't need revelation when we have it.Revelation comes with the Spirit.Well,no need to keep on with you,I know you can't receive truth.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Joelel

The problem is,everyone thinks their the one God is teaching and everyone else is wrong.The truth is if your deceived you don't know your deceived.So,the bottom line is this might be you.

Or you.