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03-08-2007, 06:35 PM
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When liberty is defined there is no liberty
Not too long ago in a service the church was being exhorted that they need to have more liberty.
Knowing the person, the situation and the tenor of the exhortation it was obvious that "liberty" meant that we all needed to jump higher, shout louder and hoop & holler more.
This thought came to me in an instant.
"When liberty is defined there is no liberty"
When someone has a definition for what "liberty" is then the only liberty I have is to fulfill their definition of liberty.
If I feel to fall on my face and their definition of liberty is to run a lap... I have no liberty.
Your thoughts?
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03-08-2007, 06:56 PM
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oooooooooo a paradox!
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03-08-2007, 06:58 PM
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but made himself of no reputation
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when liberty involves a command....servants are acting like masters
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03-08-2007, 07:04 PM
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when liberty is free...only the free will have liberty
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03-08-2007, 07:10 PM
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Yes and no. Your liberty to punch me in the nose ends where my nose begins.
Liberty always has boundaries. Where the Spirit of the Lord is there is liberty. We all know that the Spirit of the Lord is not a spirit of licenciousness.
Liberty, to be liberty, must be defined. However, our liberties may differ. When that happens, I need to give someone the "liberty" to be wrong. 
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03-08-2007, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ManOfWord
Yes and no. Your liberty to punch me in the nose ends where my nose begins.
Liberty always has boundaries. Where the Spirit of the Lord is there is liberty. We all know that the Spirit of the Lord is not a spirit of licenciousness.
Liberty, to be liberty, must be defined. However, our liberties may differ. When that happens, I need to give someone the "liberty" to be wrong. |
 Paradoxical, nonsensecal, and extremely entertaining at the same time. MOW you got skills 
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03-08-2007, 09:57 PM
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Still Figuring It Out.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ManOfWord
Yes and no. Your liberty to punch me in the nose ends where my nose begins.
Liberty always has boundaries. Where the Spirit of the Lord is there is liberty. We all know that the Spirit of the Lord is not a spirit of licenciousness.
Liberty, to be liberty, must be defined. However, our liberties may differ. When that happens, I need to give someone the "liberty" to be wrong. |
Where the spirit of the Lord is... There is no desire to punch you in the nose. 
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03-08-2007, 10:02 PM
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Naw, convincing you that it was on purpose...........that is real skill.
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth
Where the spirit of the Lord is... There is no desire to punch you in the nose. |
Except on Christian internet forums!
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03-08-2007, 10:08 PM
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The spirit is still true... perhaps it the other end of the measurement we should recalibrate.
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