OK, One more time...at which "step" is one rapture ready?
Might as beat this horse into a pulp.....
Given all the current discussions lately regarding "steppers", at what point do you think a person is rapture ready?
1. At genuine repentance, giving oneself completely to the Lord and all that means.
2. After water baptism (you know how we do it)
3. After speaking in tongues @ the reception of the Holy Spirit baptism.
4. None of these matter unless they have the oneness revelation and they take place in a oneness church.
5. After speaking in tongues, but not yet water baptized.
I know this is over simplified due to the numerous variations of each of these three "steps" but to cover all the bases would take far too many options and make it even more confusing than it already is.....to some.
Apparently, I can't edit the poll to add #5 - maybe someone can do that for me (hint, hint)
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"Those who go after the "Sauls" among us often slay the Davids among us." Gene Edwards
7) Upon fullfillment of 1, 2, and 3 and walking by faith (You could have obeyed 1, 2, 3 then went shipwreck concerning faith)
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His banner over me is LOVE.... My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
"But IF the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dweleth in you."
Holy Ghost baptism is the step and can be step 2 or 3, making room for lots of charismatics.
0.5 = Believe the Gospel
1+2+3 = Respond to and obey the gospel
5 = Continue in the Gospel
0.5 through 3 is the on-ramp that puts us on the highway of holiness
mizpeh's #5 is what keeps us walking on the highway until we reach our exit. Being "Saved" also involves enduring to the end. Staying on the highway until we hit our exit.
Without #5 we can't do that.
The only way I can say "I am saved" right now is through faith and confidence that he is able to keep that which is placed in his hand.
I won't say that Acts 2:38 "saved" me. But it is the only way to get on the narrow road. I am niether a 1 stepper or a 3 stepper. If all we take is one step we haven't got on the road yet. If all we take is three steps we are on the road and about to get run over.
This is a journey, we have thousands of steps every day day after day until the exit ramp appears...
But a sincere person wants to truly know, "If I died this moment, based upon my response to God, would I "make it" in the rapture?
I don't want to hear any "hee haw" either along the lines of "Well I'm not God and only the Lord knows."
Those words usually come out of the mouth of a bona fide three stepper who jukes and jives until they've spoken in tongues and then they'll tell you that you're ready....but not until.
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"Those who go after the "Sauls" among us often slay the Davids among us." Gene Edwards
Given all the current discussions lately regarding "steppers", at what point do you think a person is rapture ready?
1. At genuine repentance, giving oneself completely to the Lord and all that means.
2. After water baptism (you know how we do it)
3. After speaking in tongues @ the reception of the Holy Spirit baptism.
4. None of these matter unless they have the oneness revelation and they take place in a oneness church.
5. After speaking in tongues, but not yet water baptized.
I know this is over simplified due to the numerous variations of each of these three "steps" but to cover all the bases would take far too many options and make it even more confusing than it already is.....to some.
Apparently, I can't edit the poll to add #5 - maybe someone can do that for me (hint, hint)
But a sincere person wants to truly know, "If I died this moment, based upon my response to God, would I "make it" in the rapture?
Then I would answer that person. "You aren't dying right now, so I would suggest we find some water and get you baptized right and God will give you the Holy Ghost. Because it could happen and we don't know when."
Those women in the parable of the ten virgins sincerely wanted some oil.
Then I would answer that person. "You aren't dying right now, so I would suggest we find some water and get you baptized right and God will give you the Holy Ghost. Because it could happen and we don't know when."
Those women in the parable of the ten virgins sincerely wanted some oil.
Sorry to quote myself, but on the Holy Ghost bit I think most our churches promote that wrong....the whole spit and slobber in their face whilst giving a concusion and inner ear damage is more hinderence than help. God promised....
My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. 
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