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Old 10-11-2007, 05:06 PM
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Signs & Wonders

I was thinking as I sit here recovering from a broken ankle & pondering things,
if we are supposed to be Apostolic why are there not more divine healings, miracles, signs, & wonders than there is already?

Do we rely to much on modern technology & Modern Medicine?

Do we look to drugs (with my pain killers that I was on@ the beginning of my fall down the stairs I mentioned to a brother that the pills were my-"faith builders!"

Are we not consecrated enough?

Is it not preached enough?

Do we not believe enough?


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Old 10-11-2007, 05:26 PM
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I was thinking as I sit here recovering from a broken ankle & pondering things,
if we are supposed to be Apostolic why are there not more divine healings, miracles, signs, & wonders than there is already?

Do we rely to much on modern technology & Modern Medicine?

Do we look to drugs (with my pain killers that I was on@ the beginning of my fall down the stairs I mentioned to a brother that the pills were my-"faith builders!"

Are we not consecrated enough?

Is it not preached enough?

Do we not believe enough?


Anyone want to weigh in on this?
I think that there alot of things that can get in between these things happening. I think tv has as much to do with it and being too judgmental or legalistic. Now I am not calling anyone a legalist or elitist. I just look at the apostles and see what they did and they were also no respector of persons as Jesus was, but today we are. Mods/Libs/Cons/Uc's we are all too busy and if we are not careful we look down on others because we do not agree. Basically I think that we let our problems with our brothers and sisters and our selfish problems get in the way. It seems by what is in the Holy Writ that even though Peter and Paul had problems they never let it divide them. But with us small things cause great canyons between us all. Just my opinion. I feel that if we all calmed down and tried to see thing through the eyes of our counter parts then maybe we could unite better and thus the Sign and Wonders would follow. Everwhere in the Bible were something great happened it was preceeded by unity just as NLYP and others have stated.
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Old 10-11-2007, 05:51 PM
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I was thinking as I sit here recovering from a broken ankle & pondering things,
if we are supposed to be Apostolic why are there not more divine healings, miracles, signs, & wonders than there is already?

Do we rely to much on modern technology & Modern Medicine?

Do we look to drugs (with my pain killers that I was on@ the beginning of my fall down the stairs I mentioned to a brother that the pills were my-"faith builders!"

Are we not consecrated enough?

Is it not preached enough?

Do we not believe enough?


Anyone want to weigh in on this?
prayer, prayer, prayer!!! not enough of it...
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Old 10-11-2007, 05:59 PM
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I think that there alot of things that can get in between these things happening. I think tv has as much to do with it and being too judgmental or legalistic. Now I am not calling anyone a legalist or elitist. I just look at the apostles and see what they did and they were also no respector of persons as Jesus was, but today we are. Mods/Libs/Cons/Uc's we are all too busy and if we are not careful we look down on others because we do not agree. Basically I think that we let our problems with our brothers and sisters and our selfish problems get in the way. It seems by what is in the Holy Writ that even though Peter and Paul had problems they never let it divide them. But with us small things cause great canyons between us all. Just my opinion. I feel that if we all calmed down and tried to see thing through the eyes of our counter parts then maybe we could unite better and thus the Sign and Wonders would follow. Everwhere in the Bible were something great happened it was preceeded by unity just as NLYP and others have stated.
You have a good point. Unity, was a big part of the Apostolic Church.
Mind you they didn't have a million different versions of Christianity either.
Your point about Paul & Peter has merit.
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Old 10-11-2007, 06:00 PM
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prayer, prayer, prayer!!! not enough of it...
True, so true.
What might those hinderences to prayer be?
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Old 10-26-2007, 02:39 PM
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Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Simply, I believe we havent preached it enough, studied it enough, and believed it enough.

When we start to do those things more, we'll see more spiritual gifts in operation.
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Old 10-26-2007, 03:06 PM
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Statements like "we need to pray really hard about this" and "call everyone you know and get them praying!" etc. are interesting. The clear implication is that the more prayer, in quantity (both in time spent, and in the number of people praying) and intensity (pray harder!), the more likely God will answer. (And I mean answer in the obviously hoped for way - a healing or whatever. When God answers "no", well that's another topic!)

But is this really true? I guess we'd need a scientific study to answer definitively, with a control group and so on. But, in your experience: is it true? Does God come through for you more often when you spend more time in intense prayer, and/or get the prayer chain going?
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Anybody consider that God chooses those whom He will heal?????
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Anybody consider that God chooses those whom He will heal?????
He healed all that came to Him. He's no respecter of persons.
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He healed all that came to Him. He's no respecter of persons.
He let a man be crippled for many years just so He could display His glory.

BTW, there was a disciple whom He appeared to love more than the others.
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