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Old 09-15-2007, 09:58 PM
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Rapture in the New Testament

This is the closest thing I can find to the word "rapture" in our New Testament. See verse 17 below:

13 nolumus autem vos ignorare fratres de dormientibus ut non contristemini sicut et ceteri qui spem non habent
14 si enim credimus quod Iesus mortuus est et resurrexit ita et Deus eos qui dormierunt per Iesum adducet cum eo
15 hoc enim vobis dicimus in verbo Domini quia nos qui vivimus qui residui sumus in adventum Domini non praeveniemus eos qui dormierunt
16 quoniam ipse Dominus in iussu et in voce archangeli et in tuba Dei descendet de caelo et mortui qui in Christo sunt resurgent primi
17 deinde nos qui vivimus qui relinquimur simul RAPIEMUR cum illis in nubibus obviam Domino in aera et sic semper cum Domino erimus
18 itaque consolamini invicem in verbis istis

1 Thess 4:13-18 from The Latin Vulgate
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Old 09-16-2007, 01:08 AM
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This is the closest thing I can find to the word "rapture" in our New Testament. See verse 17 below:

13 nolumus autem vos ignorare fratres de dormientibus ut non contristemini sicut et ceteri qui spem non habent
14 si enim credimus quod Iesus mortuus est et resurrexit ita et Deus eos qui dormierunt per Iesum adducet cum eo
15 hoc enim vobis dicimus in verbo Domini quia nos qui vivimus qui residui sumus in adventum Domini non praeveniemus eos qui dormierunt
16 quoniam ipse Dominus in iussu et in voce archangeli et in tuba Dei descendet de caelo et mortui qui in Christo sunt resurgent primi
17 deinde nos qui vivimus qui relinquimur simul RAPIEMUR cum illis in nubibus obviam Domino in aera et sic semper cum Domino erimus
18 itaque consolamini invicem in verbis istis

1 Thess 4:13-18 from The Latin Vulgate
That's because that is the latin equivelent of our english Rapture. It simply means "caught up"
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Old 09-16-2007, 01:16 AM
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This is the closest thing I can find to the word "rapture" in our New Testament. See verse 17 below:

13 nolumus autem vos ignorare fratres de dormientibus ut non contristemini sicut et ceteri qui spem non habent
14 si enim credimus quod Iesus mortuus est et resurrexit ita et Deus eos qui dormierunt per Iesum adducet cum eo
15 hoc enim vobis dicimus in verbo Domini quia nos qui vivimus qui residui sumus in adventum Domini non praeveniemus eos qui dormierunt
16 quoniam ipse Dominus in iussu et in voce archangeli et in tuba Dei descendet de caelo et mortui qui in Christo sunt resurgent primi
17 deinde nos qui vivimus qui relinquimur simul RAPIEMUR cum illis in nubibus obviam Domino in aera et sic semper cum Domino erimus
18 itaque consolamini invicem in verbis istis

1 Thess 4:13-18 from The Latin Vulgate
for one...

How can Apostolics possibly justify using the Latin Vulgate??? lol (no offense) seems kinda contradictory to me...

For two... the word "rapture" doesn't appear in the Bible, its just a word we use to describe an event the Bible describes but doesn't actually name...
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Let´s just say we will forever be with the Lord..who cares how...just to be with Him is the most important thing to me...
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Old 09-16-2007, 01:45 PM
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Let´s just say we will forever be with the Lord..who cares how...just to be with Him is the most important thing to me...
I agree - "rather it is a hole in the ground (through death) or a hole in the sky (rapture) as long as we are ready to meet the Lord!", quoted by my husband's grandfather when he would testify in church (right before he ranned the aisle at age 90) He would also say, "Do you know why there is going to be a time of silence in Heaven, so my feet will cool off." He was a runner of the aisles!
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Sorry - I meant ran, not ranned.
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Old 09-16-2007, 02:38 PM
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This is a neat way of interpeting the Bible Sam... let's see...

13 nolumus (no lumnas) autem vos (yes) ignorare (ingornant) fratres (fatties) de (dumb) dormientibus (doormen) ut (at) non contristemini (christian) sicut et (ate) ceteri (citris) qui spem non habent
14 si (see) enim (them) credimus (credits) (on TV) quod (quote) Iesus (Jesus) mortuus (more) est et resurrexit ita et Deus eos qui dormierunt per Iesum adducet cum eo
15 hoc enim vobis dicimus in verbo Domini quia nos qui vivimus qui residui sumus in adventum Domini non praeveniemus eos qui dormierunt
16 quoniam ipse Dominus in iussu et in voce archangeli et in tuba Dei descendet de caelo et mortui qui in Christo sunt resurgent primi
17 deinde nos qui vivimus qui relinquimur simul RAPIEMUR cum illis in nubibus obviam Domino in aera et sic semper cum Domino erimus
18 itaque consolamini invicem in verbis istis

1 Thess 4:13-18 from The Latin Vulgate



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This is the closest thing I can find to the word "rapture" in our New Testament. See verse 17 below:

13 nolumus autem vos ignorare fratres de dormientibus ut non contristemini sicut et ceteri qui spem non habent
14 si enim credimus quod Iesus mortuus est et resurrexit ita et Deus eos qui dormierunt per Iesum adducet cum eo
15 hoc enim vobis dicimus in verbo Domini quia nos qui vivimus qui residui sumus in adventum Domini non praeveniemus eos qui dormierunt
16 quoniam ipse Dominus in iussu et in voce archangeli et in tuba Dei descendet de caelo et mortui qui in Christo sunt resurgent primi
17 deinde nos qui vivimus qui relinquimur simul RAPIEMUR cum illis in nubibus obviam Domino in aera et sic semper cum Domino erimus
18 itaque consolamini invicem in verbis istis

1 Thess 4:13-18 from The Latin Vulgate
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for one...

How can Apostolics possibly justify using the Latin Vulgate??? lol (no offense) seems kinda contradictory to me...
Why? That does not make sense you saying that
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Why? That does not make sense you saying that
The Latin Vulgate that we currently have was "translated" at the height of the Catholic Churches' (misuse of) power... If there ever were a time that you can't trust a translation of a Bible, its the Latin Vulgate...
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The word rapture is not found in the bible,but the Bible does teach a resurrection.
The Bible teachs eternal life for the rightheous,and punishment for the wicked.
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