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08-10-2007, 09:25 PM
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Would you support a return to the Draft
WASHINGTON — Frequent tours for U.S. forces in Iraq and Afghanistan have stressed the all-volunteer force and made it worth considering a return to a military draft, President Bush's new war adviser said Friday.
"I think it makes sense to certainly consider it," Army Lt. Gen. Douglas Lute said in an interview with National Public Radio's "All Things Considered."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,292949,00.html
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08-10-2007, 09:31 PM
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My son just turned 15 so this is not something I take lightly. But if it were in the best interest of freedom then yes.
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08-11-2007, 12:36 AM
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What if it was to replenish forces in Iraq?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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08-11-2007, 01:00 AM
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This thread reminded me of another song by The Byrds from the Sweetheart of the Rodeo album. The draft was being discussed and this song was playing!
The Christian Life
My friends all tell me that I should've waited
They say I'm missing a whole world of fun
But I still love them and I sing with pride
I like the Christian life
I won't lose a friend by heeding gods call
For what is a friend whod want you to fall
Others find pleasure in things I despise
I like the Christian life.
My buddies shun me since I turned to jesus
They say I'm missing a whole world of fun
I live without them and walk in the light
I like the Christian life.
I won't lose a friend by heeding God's call
For what is a friend who'd want you to fall?
Others find pleasure in things I despise
I like the Christian life
I like the Christian life.
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God is so good!
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08-11-2007, 01:03 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Praxeas
What if it was to replenish forces in Iraq?
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Yes!
And let them clean up Syria, Lebanon, and Iran also.
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08-11-2007, 01:21 AM
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I am not in favor of a return to the draft. I think that it's hard enough fighting a war with people who want to be there (not that they really want to be there, but they are volunteers) and are committed. I also think that if we get to the point where the draft is going to be reinstated, that there will be a push for women to be included in the draft as well. In fact, I think that if women are not included in the draft, someone will sue because they don't think it's fair that only the men have to go.
Those of you who are in favor, how would you feel if there was a change made to include young women in the draft?
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08-11-2007, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by joyful
I am not in favor of a return to the draft. I think that it's hard enough fighting a war with people who want to be there (not that they really want to be there, but they are volunteers) and are committed. I also think that if we get to the point where the draft is going to be reinstated, that there will be a push for women to be included in the draft as well. In fact, I think that if women are not included in the draft, someone will sue because they don't think it's fair that only the men have to go.
Those of you who are in favor, how would you feel if there was a change made to include young women in the draft?
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Now that the women have for so long pushed, pushed, pushed, campaigned for, sought after, insisted upon every equality with the men, to which I have no objection, then I say, "Shoulder arms ol' girl, we are going to war and do not lag behind."
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08-11-2007, 08:55 AM
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I am new here, so I hope my question is taken without offense: where does Jesus give a Christian the approval to fight against or kill an enemy?
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08-11-2007, 09:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother Strange
Now that the women have for so long pushed, pushed, pushed, campaigned for, sought after, insisted upon every equality with the men, to which I have no objection, then I say, "Shoulder arms ol' girl, we are going to war and do not lag behind."
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I have a 19 year old son and some pretty entrenched opinions and emotional responses.
1. NO WAY should we be drafting young men for a prolonged war that many in the country don't want and that we are not prepared to win once and for all.
2. NO WAY should women be drafted for combat. They are a liability on the battlefield, physically and emotionally. Women's bodies were designed for bringing forth life not fighting wars. Their lack of upperbody strength and inability to throw a grenade far enough puts everybody at risk. Furthermore, Women's emotions enable nurturing but are not so great for combat.
The presence of women in these places also destroys the sanctity of the families back home. Good men stray under the strain of uncertainty and the daily proximity of women. It has been said that there is no such thing as an ugly woman on a ship over time.
And in fact; one out of 10 women are removed from ships and/or the battlefield due to pregnancy.
And for the record; one can advocate for the right of women to be treated the same as men where they are EQUIPPED to handle it; without sending them into combat to the detriment of ALL.
This is a hit and run post!
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08-11-2007, 10:09 AM
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Still Figuring It Out.
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There is no reason that I would ever be for the draft.
I would neither be behind my children being involved in war.
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