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08-10-2007, 11:27 AM
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Does Jesus know ALL things?
How was Peter able to say what he said to Jesus in the verse below that Jesus knew all things, when Jesus confessed to not knowing the day of his coming and of the end of the world?
Joh 21:17 He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.
Matt 13:32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.
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08-10-2007, 11:36 AM
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How was Peter able to say what he said to Jesus in the verse below that Jesus knew all things, when Jesus confessed to not knowing the day of his coming and of the end of the world?
Joh 21:17 He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.
Matt 13:32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.
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just a thought...
Matt 28:18 happened between these two witnesses.
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08-10-2007, 11:48 AM
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Tbpew,
I appreciate for the thought, but in the book of Revelation, Jesus had to be given the revelation from God....meaning this was something Jesus didn't know but was revealed unto Him as well.
Rev 1:1 1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
Matthew 28:28 All power is not the same as all knowledge.
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08-10-2007, 12:15 PM
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Jesus in His humanity didn't know all things.
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Jesus in His humanity didn't know all things.
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True.
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08-10-2007, 01:50 PM
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Jesus in His humanity didn't know all things.
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but Peter was speaking to Jesus in his humanity and said to Jesus, who was in the similtude of man, that He knew all things. Peter wasn't praying to the Jesus, who is God the Father in heaven, but to Jesus, in his human form.
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Originally Posted by mizpeh
Tbpew,
I appreciate for the thought, but in the book of Revelation, Jesus had to be given the revelation from God....meaning this was something Jesus didn't know but was revealed unto Him as well.
Rev 1:1 1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
Matthew 28:28 All power is not the same as all knowledge.
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We Must rightly divide the Word. Rev 1:1 1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him Is referring to a revelation God gave to John not to Jesus Christ.
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08-10-2007, 02:08 PM
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We Must rightly divide the Word. Rev 1:1 1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him Is referring to a revelation God gave to John not to Jesus Christ.
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Jesus Christ is the antecedent to 'him'.
Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show to His bond-servants, the things which must soon take place; and He sent and communicated it by His angel to His bond-servant John, NASV
The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants--things which must shortly take place. And He sent and signified it by His angel to His servant John, NKJV
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08-10-2007, 02:17 PM
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Your thread title says "DOES" He know. The answer is YES!
Your input refers to "DID" He know.
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08-10-2007, 04:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Felicity
Jesus in His humanity didn't know all things.
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Jesus lost his humanity? I think not. He is just as much a man today as he ever was. In fact, he is our proto type man.
In Jn 16:30 the disciples said of Jesus that he knew all things. This was said of Jesus because he knew their hearts. It is said that he commited himself to know man because he knew the hearts of all men. This is true in John 21 also. He knew the hearts and minds of the people.
This is not to say that before he was glorified that he knew the day and the hour. Clearly, he did not, as he testified of that inability.
However, after his glorification, he came into his omnscient state of God knowledge, knowing all things, having received all power both in heaven and in earth. Omniscience is a component of all power.
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