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Old 07-27-2007, 03:20 AM
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UPCI's Randy Hollis Throws Down the Gauntlet: The Emancipation of Isaac

Posted on his website http://www.randyhollis.com/

Introduction to "The Emancipation of Isaac"

By Randy Hollis

"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is a proof against all argument, and which cannot fail to keep man in everlasting ignorance. That principle is condemnation before investigation." - Edmund Spencer

"Once upon a time" is the way many stories begin.
For the followers of Christ it has always simply been, "In the beginning." We have always had a secure point of reference, "the beginning." The question is what is the core ingredient of which the beginning was made?
The answer is the word, "In the beginning was the word."


So I think it's safe to say that the source of all things is the word, God spoke the world into existence. We live in an ocean of sound because sound was how it all started, God spoke; therefore sound is the source of all things.

If you could slow a light frequency down to the speed of a sound frequency the light frequency and sound frequency would match. Why? Because light has its source in speech or sound; God said, "let there be light."

The scriptures refer to us as the children of light. We find a mandate given to "Walk while ye have the light , lest darkness come upon you:" John 12:35 KJV

I think the meaning here is clear, light equals revelation. We searched the landscape of scripture until patterns emerged; we connected the dots until we achieved an aaah-ha! In other words, the word of God arranged into certain contextual compositions develops into light. True revelation is a homecoming to unyielding truth; we are only discovering the already said.

We have experienced celebrations of light and thank God we have found the grace to continue in them. Our celebrations of water baptism and the in-filling of the Holy Spirit are clearly parallels of the birth of water and spirit found in John's gospel.

However, most of us are bound to some degree by the chains of theological imaginations; these imaginations are developed by someone (preacher, teacher, parent) drawing a truth map in our heads. When not certain, they made reverential estimates of landscapes yet discovered and uncharted. They meant well, they tried as hard as they could to get it right. The truth is that we all live in the land of shadows, "now we see through a glass darkly."

In the search for truth it is good to remember that the sketches or maps formed in our minds are only a description of the real-estate and not the property (truth) itself. The bible tells us in John 8:32 "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." Free from what? Inaccurate maps!

In the upcoming months, the organization I am in will face some difficult decisions. They will be called upon to settle some very unsettled issues. The
issues, or "technologies in question," are not the problem! We must always go to the root of the problem, which in this case is found in the ethical decision making model we chose to navigate by so many years ago.

We chose a rule-based ethical decision-making-model;

Example- "If you have a television in your home you are going to hell."

Yet, Christ epitomized something else; a principle based ethical decision making model.

Example- "I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes:" (Psa 101:3 KJV)
The Rule based model clearly demonizes "the technology." While the principle based model simply teaches us to navigate through it. I might also add that the principle - "I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes," seems to anticipate the internet as well. "His" principles just have a way of doing that. Our rule based model did not anticipate the internet and we've witnessed pastors and their wives leaving each other over someone they met while in a chat room, or worse.

A rule based ethical decision making model will more often than not, lock you into time and era; a "rule" can make perfect sense to one generation, and become rigid, limiting, and even damaging to the next.

A principle based ethical decision making model is adaptable while navigating through time and era; it works in every generation. The eternal God we serve has never been affected by time. Therefore, the principle based model He gave us is timeless.

Trueblood said, "What is most rewarding is doing something that really matters with congenial colleagues who share with us the firm conviction it needs to be done."

We must steer our organization towards Christ's principle based ethical decision making model if we expect to survive the tsunami of technological breakthroughs which lay on the horizon.

God richly bless you as you take the time to prayerfully read the chapter below, "The Emancipation of Isaac." Keep in mind that even though I feel the insight for this chapter was given to me by God, I am fully aware that I still, like Paul, only "know in part." I'm asking you to feel free to respond by email, we need each other now more than ever.

The chapter was written in the fall 2003, it's from my upcoming book which I plan to call "The Man in the Middle."


Your friend in Christ,
Randy Hollis
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Old 07-27-2007, 03:32 AM
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Read His Emancipation of Isaac article ... http://www.thebelieverschurch.com/ra...ancipation.htm

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It appears to be directed at exposing the ULTRA-CONSERVATIVES within the Apostolic movement.

This article is also the featured article on AWCF.ORG ...
http://www.awcf.org/guestarticle.html

It is also posted at the New Church Order website:
http://www.newchurchorder.com/content/view/53/45/
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Old 07-27-2007, 03:34 AM
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Some interesting quotes from the Emancipation of Isaac

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I believe that the time is now! How long should we allow the Ishmaelite's to run roughshod over the body? Maybe there is only a minority that stands in their pulpits to preach, "if you wear open toed shoes then you're going to hell! If you wear colored pantyhose then you're going to hell. If you wear a dress with a walking slit in it you are going to hell. If you have a video player in your home, or in your church then you are not saved. If you wear a short-sleeved shirt exposing your elbow then you are not saved."

Are we inviting the world to view our message with skepticism by allowing this thoughtlessness to go on? Forgive the harsh question, but have we have become the midwife-of-skepticism?

Shouldn't we demand that they give biblical evidence for their stand? We say, "oh that's just Brother so and so, he's just a little conservative." We are either being way too considerate of that preachers feelings (not truth), or we are totally blind to the fact that Paul would call them legalists!


Paul would say that they have fallen from grace and made Christ of none effect. Where are the grace cops of our day? Our neighborhood has been messed up for far too long, the smell of Ishmael is suffocating. A male dog will mark his territory by hiking his leg upon everything in sight. The problem with Ishmael is he just won't stay in his own back yard; the leaven works its way through the whole lump.


Domination, manipulation, and intimidation are their preferred weapons of choice; all three are classified as illegitimate authorities, meaning that they are not scripturally based. Are you aware that domination, manipulation, and intimidation are considered witchcraft in spirit? I consider them to be the witchcraft-trinity. Aristotle observed that, "no one loves the man whom he fears."
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Old 07-27-2007, 03:39 AM
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Paul said, they fell from grace, Isaiah said, they fell backwards; both are terrifying statements!
Where is a person, if they have fallen backwards, fallen from grace, and Christ is of no effect in their life? Could it mean that they are lost?


There is a group of ministers in the church that call themselves "conservative," while we would call them "ultra-conservative." Will you consider for a moment that they may not be Christ-like in their views or actions? Could they be back under the law, fallen from grace and not aware that they have lost their blood covering; might they be bewitched? The word of God has become to them rule upon rule, a list of do's and don'ts. When they stand before God will they have to give answer for why they mocked the power of the blood? Will they also be stunned into a terrified silence when they learn that because they embraced "one law" they will now have to give an answer for every law?


When I read Gal 5:4 something very strange happened to me, I saw a diagram like the second one pictured below. The first diagram is the way I had always seen Pentecost, I believed that you were either blind (meaning that you did not see the light of truth) or you were given enough insight by the spirit to see the truth and you belonged on the blood covered platform. I was taught to believe that if you were blood covered then you belonged in one of these four categories, Liberal, moderate, conservative, or ultra- conservative. I had always believed that if you were blood covered then you were on a higher level spiritually than the blind.






When I read the following statement, "O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you," (Gal 3:1 KJV) The diagram below came to my mind and has not changed since that time.




The Ultraconservative group fell away from the blood-stained-grace- platform and became lost again by stumbling back under the law. What terrifies me is, most ministers deceived by this spirit never feel a falling sensation or the thud when they crash into the lower bewitched platform. They do not realize that they have changed spirits!


Paul went on to declare, "This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?" (Gal 3:2 -3)


Paul also said, "But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. "The Law" (Gal 3:25 ) "But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?" (Gal 4:9 ) And from the NIV "I fear for you, that somehow I have wasted my efforts on you." (Gal 4:11 )

When Paul said, "ye desire again to be in bondage" it brings the wilderness wonderings of the children of Israel to mind. They longed to go back to Egypt. This is another anticipatory model of the law-Vs-blood-"Perfect Storm." There are many warnings laced throughout scriptures, warning us of a terrible snare that would leave us at best, bound, and at the worst, lost.
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Old 07-27-2007, 05:10 AM
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I've heard Randy Hollis preach. I recommend using his teachings with extreme caution.

I wouldn't pay the man a nickel to bury a hobo.
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Engineering solutions for theological problems.

Despite today's rising cost of living, it remains popular.

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"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Old 07-27-2007, 07:26 AM
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The Ultraconservative group fell away from the blood-stained-grace- platform and became lost again by stumbling back under the law. What terrifies me is, most ministers deceived by this spirit never feel a falling sensation or the thud when they crash into the lower bewitched platform. They do not realize that they have changed spirits!
Wow, this quote is way harsh.

While I agree with most of what he is saying, this is no way to win friends and influence people. This article must not have had a great readership since it was published in '03 and we are just now hearing of it.
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Old 07-27-2007, 07:52 AM
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Right before a wheel comes off, you generally hear the bearing squealing.

Randy is squealing.
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And the LORD took me as I followed the flock, and the LORD said unto me, Go, prophesy unto my people Israel."


--Amos 7:14-15
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So,

let me get this straight.

It is wrong for someone to be judgemental...

Yet he makes the case that Peter may have been lost,

You know, the same Peter whose name is on one of the foundations of the City that John saw.

This type of writing/thinking is troubling because he seems to think it is somehow God inspired, but the connections he makes, in broad strokes says others cannot be saved, because essentially they don't see things the way "he does."

Anyone that suggests that Peter is lost ... and then going to go through this diagram of goofy doctorine to say others in our movement is LOST. I would say this is the begining of more poor folks that will be led astray by another preacher who has lost his way or never had a clear view of truth to begin with.
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So,

let me get this straight.

It is wrong for someone to be judgemental...

Yet he makes the case that Peter may have been lost,

You know, the same Peter whose name is on one of the foundations of the City that John saw.

This type of writing/thinking is troubling because he seems to think it is somehow God inspired, but the connections he makes, in broad strokes says others cannot be saved, because essentially they don't see things the way "he does."

Anyone that suggests that Peter is lost ... and then going to go through this diagram of goofy doctorine to say others in our movement is LOST. I would say this is the begining of more poor folks that will be led astray by another preacher who has lost his way or never had a clear view of truth to begin with.
I guess God made a mistake when He put Peter's name on one of the foundations of the Holy City.

he may have to replace it with "Randy."
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And the LORD took me as I followed the flock, and the LORD said unto me, Go, prophesy unto my people Israel."


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Read His Emancipation of Isaac article ... http://www.thebelieverschurch.com/ra...ancipation.htm

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It appears to be directed at exposing the ULTRA-CONSERVATIVES within the Apostolic movement.

This article is also the featured article on AWCF.ORG ...
http://www.awcf.org/guestarticle.html

It is also posted at the New Church Order website:
http://www.newchurchorder.com/content/view/53/45/
Daniel, I would like to see a thread specifically devoted to the content of this post and its implications.

The result may be the biggest thread in forum history.
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