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Old 07-18-2007, 03:49 PM
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Is This an Attempt to Control Your Pulpit?

Whereas there has not been a clear definition of the terms "under question" and "conduct unbecoming a minister," and

Whereas there seems to be a difference in these terms,

THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that article VII, Section 7, Paragraph 21 is changed to read as follows:

21. No minister who withdraws or is dropped from our fellowship, whose conduct is under question, shall be allowed to preach for any of our ministers, nor pastor any of our churches. Neither shall any minister of the United Pentecostal Church International fellowship be allowed to preach or participate in any form in any services (except funerals and weddings) sponsored or conducted by any minister who has withdrawn or been dropped, whose conduct is under question. This does not apply to anyone being used in any capacity in his or her local assembly, with the exception of the position of associate pastor or assistant pastor.

(a) The term "under question" shall be taken to mean a formal decision by a District Board reflecting a concern that conduct in flagrant violation of the Manual of the United Pentecostal Church International has occurred.

(b) The term "conduct unbecoming a minister" shall be taken to mean any conduct of a moral, financial, or ethical nature that would cause a reproach upon the ministry.
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Old 07-18-2007, 03:52 PM
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This will be presented at GC this year.
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Old 07-18-2007, 03:58 PM
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What is the change? the underlined definitions?

THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that article VII, Section 7, Paragraph 21 is changed to read as follows:

It would be nice if they backed up all of their laws with scripture.
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Old 07-18-2007, 03:59 PM
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Almost forgot.....glad your back. How was the vacation?
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Old 07-18-2007, 04:00 PM
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This will be presented at GC this year.
I hope you're going to be there to cast your vote!

My pastor is.
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Old 07-18-2007, 04:01 PM
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These two paragraphs are the additions.

(a) The term "under question" shall be taken to mean a formal decision by a District Board reflecting a concern that conduct in flagrant violation of the Manual of the United Pentecostal Church International has occurred.

(b) The term "conduct unbecoming a minister" shall be taken to mean any conduct of a moral, financial, or ethical nature that would cause a reproach upon the ministry.
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Old 07-18-2007, 04:04 PM
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(a) The term "under question" shall be taken to mean a formal decision by a District Board reflecting a concern that conduct in flagrant violation of the Manual of the United Pentecostal Church International has occurred.

The large portion slays me. Notice that there is nothing mentioned about a flagrant violation of biblical principles? All that matters is an adherance to THE MANUAL!!!!

The UPC is moving further into strict denominationalism.
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Old 07-18-2007, 04:04 PM
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Almost forgot.....glad your back. How was the vacation?

I've been around, though not as much. :sshhh
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Old 07-18-2007, 04:06 PM
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We left of our own will, under no question from the UPC. However, after all these years, when we preach in a UPC church, it still has to be kept "secret" and it isn't advertised. This has happened more than once in more than one place, and I think it's funny. But the stigma is still there, no matter how you left.
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Whereas there has not been a clear definition of the terms "under question" and "conduct unbecoming a minister," and

Whereas there seems to be a difference in these terms,

THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that article VII, Section 7, Paragraph 21 is changed to read as follows:

21. No minister who withdraws or is dropped from our fellowship, whose conduct is under question, shall be allowed to preach for any of our ministers, nor pastor any of our churches. Neither shall any minister of the United Pentecostal Church International fellowship be allowed to preach or participate in any form in any services (except funerals and weddings) sponsored or conducted by any minister who has withdrawn or been dropped, whose conduct is under question. This does not apply to anyone being used in any capacity in his or her local assembly, with the exception of the position of associate pastor or assistant pastor.

(a) The term "under question" shall be taken to mean a formal decision by a District Board reflecting a concern that conduct in flagrant violation of the Manual of the United Pentecostal Church International has occurred.

(b) The term "conduct unbecoming a minister" shall be taken to mean any conduct of a moral, financial, or ethical nature that would cause a reproach upon the ministry.
PP it might be better since before the official would interpet this like he wanted without any perimeters.
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