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Old 07-16-2007, 02:53 PM
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Can someone please tell me...?!

I am almost 56 years old and was brought to the house of God and dedicated when I was a month old. So, though I have not always lived the saved and sanctified life, I am not a novice to the Apostolic Church.

In my youth, I learned about the Church and it's birth on the Day of Pentecost. They taught me about Topeka, Kansas, and the Azuza Revival. I knew about the withdrawl from the AG in 1916 and the formation of the different Apostolic organizations. I knew that the UPCI was the result of a merger in 1945...the complete details I did not know until recent years, but the merger I was aware of.

I grew up hearing and knowing the names of Brothers Goss, Vouga, Haywood, Urshan, Witherspoon, Cook, Ewart, Durham, Parham, Seymour. They were as familiar to me as my own name.

But can someone tell me WHY I never heard of the men listed below who ALSO were pioneers of the gospel?!

Brother WM Greer

Brother Earl L. Jacques

Brother EP Wickens

Brother John H. Dearing

Brother Wynn T. Stairs

Brother Raymond Beesley

I have read countless books on this subject...so why are their names foreign to me?! What impact did they have on this gospel message being spread in the last century?! How come important details and names were omitted from my Apostolic education?!

Or am I the only ignorant soul in the bunch?!
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Old 07-16-2007, 02:58 PM
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I am almost 56 years old and was brought to the house of God and dedicated when I was a month old. So, though I have not always lived the saved and sanctified life, I am not a novice to the Apostolic Church.

In my youth, I learned about the Church and it's birth on the Day of Pentecost. They taught me about Topeka, Kansas, and the Azuza Revival. I knew about the withdrawl from the AG in 1916 and the formation of the different Apostolic organizations. I knew that the UPCI was the result of a merger in 1945...the complete details I did not know until recent years, but the merger I was aware of.

I grew up hearing and knowing the names of Brothers Goss, Vouga, Haywood, Urshan, Witherspoon, Cook, Ewart, Durham, Parham, Seymour. They were as familiar to me as my own name.

But can someone tell me WHY I never heard of the men listed below who ALSO were pioneers of the gospel?!

Brother WM Greer

Brother Earl L. Jacques

Brother EP Wickens

Brother John H. Dearing

Brother Wynn T. Stairs

Brother Raymond Beesley

I have read countless books on this subject...so why are their names foreign to me?! What impact did they have on this gospel message being spread in the last century?! How come important details and names were omitted from my Apostolic education?!

Or am I the only ignorant soul in the bunch?!
I have never heard of these men either.
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Old 07-16-2007, 02:58 PM
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the current generation, and the generation before (mine) knows even less about it's Pentecostal roots....
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Old 07-16-2007, 02:59 PM
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I have never heard of these men either.
Thank you...at least I don't stand alone in my ignorance of these men...
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I've heard of Bro Greer, but don't recall from where though.... none of the other people I have heard of.... but then again I'm just a youngster around here....
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Old 07-16-2007, 03:00 PM
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the current generation, and the generation before (mine) knows even less about it's Pentecostal roots....
And this makes me weep, Mal...
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Old 07-16-2007, 03:03 PM
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I am almost 56 years old and was brought to the house of God and dedicated when I was a month old. So, though I have not always lived the saved and sanctified life, I am not a novice to the Apostolic Church.

In my youth, I learned about the Church and it's birth on the Day of Pentecost. They taught me about Topeka, Kansas, and the Azuza Revival. I knew about the withdrawl from the AG in 1916 and the formation of the different Apostolic organizations. I knew that the UPCI was the result of a merger in 1945...the complete details I did not know until recent years, but the merger I was aware of.

I grew up hearing and knowing the names of Brothers Goss, Vouga, Haywood, Urshan, Witherspoon, Cook, Ewart, Durham, Parham, Seymour. They were as familiar to me as my own name.

But can someone tell me WHY I never heard of the men listed below who ALSO were pioneers of the gospel?!

Brother WM Greer

Brother Earl L. Jacques

Brother EP Wickens

Brother John H. Dearing

Brother Wynn T. Stairs

Brother Raymond Beesley

I have read countless books on this subject...so why are their names foreign to me?! What impact did they have on this gospel message being spread in the last century?! How come important details and names were omitted from my Apostolic education?!

Or am I the only ignorant soul in the bunch?!
anyone ever heard of a preacher by the name of Bro Duke (he was blind I think) or Sis Fraiser (from Starks, LA area) who was, perhap still is, known as a prophetess....
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Old 07-16-2007, 03:07 PM
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anyone ever heard of a preacher by the name of Bro Duke (he was blind I think) or Sis Fraiser (from Starks, LA area) who was, perhap still is, known as a prophetess....
No, Mal...I haven't...
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And this makes me weep, Mal...
I doubt some have even heard of Bro Pugh, Bro Becton, Bro Cole, etc the oldest living generation of preachers.... they would know of Bro J. Jones, Bro Mangun, Bro Stoneking, Bro Williams, Bro Arnold, Bro Maddix, etc though.... because they would have seen or heard them during their lifetimes....
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Old 07-16-2007, 03:10 PM
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I doubt some have even heard of Bro Pugh, Bro Becton, Bro Cole, etc the oldest living generation of preachers.... they would know of Bro J. Jones, Bro Mangun, Bro Stoneking, Bro Williams, Bro Arnold, Bro Maddix, etc though.... because they would have seen or heard them during their lifetimes....
This is true...

You know, I feel as if I was stunted in my growth somehow. Was my Apostolic education edited for a reason?!

It disturbs me...
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