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Old 06-18-2007, 10:09 AM
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Tongues....Baptism... etc.....not standards (cause you will lose)

What if you were chosen to debate these topics? Are they necessary for salvation?

I'll start with baptism. Is there any circumstance were some one would make it across the other side with out being baptized? Or the ones that have not been baptized by a certain formula. Oh the poor souls that happened into the wrong church when at a point of searching. Why would they be held accountable for trusting the pastor of a....oh lets say Methodist church. What if it was all the church they ever got? Are you saying that they are not sincere?

Are you touting that you are the only game in town?
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Old 06-18-2007, 10:12 AM
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Tongues....Baptism... etc.....not standards (cause you will lose)

What if you were chosen to debate these topics? Are they necessary for salvation?

I'll start with baptism. Is there any circumstance were some one would make it across the other side with out being baptized? Or the ones that have not been baptized by a certain formula. Oh the poor souls that happened into the wrong church when at a point of searching. Why would they be held accountable for trusting the pastor of a....oh lets say Methodist church. What if it was all the church they ever got? Are you saying that they are not sincere?

Are you touting that you are the only game in town?
Have you been around PP so long and you do not know these things?
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Old 06-18-2007, 10:15 AM
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Have you been around PP so long and you do not know these things?
LOL. NO I am not around PP nearly enough. He is a great man.

Is that you best defense on baptism? DUNK AND RUN
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Old 06-18-2007, 10:17 AM
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LOL. NO I am not around PP nearly enough. He is a great man.

Is that you best defense on baptism? DUNK AND RUN
No, I have errands to run. I'll be back later.
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Tongues....Baptism... etc.....not standards (cause you will lose)

What if you were chosen to debate these topics? Are they necessary for salvation?

I'll start with baptism. Is there any circumstance were some one would make it across the other side with out being baptized? Or the ones that have not been baptized by a certain formula. Oh the poor souls that happened into the wrong church when at a point of searching. Why would they be held accountable for trusting the pastor of a....oh lets say Methodist church. What if it was all the church they ever got? Are you saying that they are not sincere?

Are you touting that you are the only game in town?
I'll bite. This is really about God's ability more than our baptism. The answer is yes.
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Old 06-18-2007, 10:18 AM
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Tongues....Baptism... etc.....not standards (cause you will lose)

What if you were chosen to debate these topics? Are they necessary for salvation?

I'll start with baptism. Is there any circumstance were some one would make it across the other side with out being baptized? Or the ones that have not been baptized by a certain formula. Oh the poor souls that happened into the wrong church when at a point of searching. Why would they be held accountable for trusting the pastor of a....oh lets say Methodist church. What if it was all the church they ever got? Are you saying that they are not sincere?

Are you touting that you are the only game in town?
We are the ONLY church in our city that preaches the ONLY saving message of the Apostles and yes all in those false churches are lost no matter how sincere they are. Paul said "If our gospel be hid it is hid to them that are lost"2Cor. 4:3
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Old 06-18-2007, 10:24 AM
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We are the ONLY church in our city that preaches the ONLY saving message of the Apostles and yes all in those false churches are lost no matter how sincere they are. Paul said "If our gospel be hid it is hid to them that are lost"2Cor. 4:3
The gospel meaning the truth I suppose?

If a person in the hour of spritual need wonders into a.......oh lets say Baptist church and follows the leading of the Pastor why would he be held accountable?
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Old 06-18-2007, 10:27 AM
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The gospel meaning the truth I suppose?

If a person in the hour of spritual need wonders into a.......oh lets say Baptist church and follows the leading of the Pastor why would he be held accountable?
If a person is really sincere God will send him a preacher preaching truth the Book of Acts gives those examples. Try the Eunuch in the desert.
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If a person is really sincere God will send him a preacher preaching truth the Book of Acts gives those examples. Try the Eunuch in the desert.
OK, so those who are genuinely sincere have OP connections?
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