School of Prophets Conference

Charlie Brown · #1 06-09-2007, 11:48 AM

I picked up a Herald, something I haven't done in at least a year, and was browsing a Special Issue recently put out. I noticed that there is a "School of Prophets" conference going to be held in Stockton at Christian Life on July 23-27.

The listed preachers are Nathaniel Haney, Eli Lopez, Lee Stoneking, John Arcovio, Matt Maddix, Anthony Romo, and Ronnie Mullings.

My question is simple. Where are the Prophets?? Did they forget to list them?

Monkeyman · #2 06-09-2007, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlie Brown

I picked up a Herald, something I haven't done in at least a year, and was browsing a Special Issue recently put out. I noticed that there is a "School of Prophets" conference going to be held in Stockton at Christian Life on July 23-27.

The listed preachers are Nathaniel Haney, Eli Lopez, Lee Stoneking, John Arcovio, Matt Maddix, Anthony Romo, and Ronnie Mullings.

My question is simple. Where are the Prophets?? Did they forget to list them?

This has been something that CLC has done for years(at least early 90s if not late 80s). There has been more done for young men at this retreat then you will probably do in a hundred years...take your cheap backseat potshots elsewhere...blockhead

Charlie Brown · #3 06-09-2007, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Monkeyman

This has been something that CLC has done for years(at least early 90s if not late 80s). There has been more done for young men at this retreat then you will probably do in a hundred years...take your cheap backseat potshots elsewhere...blockhead

I did not advertise a School of Prophets Conference, so I am not the focus of this thread. You are just trying to project the focus off of the fact that none of the men listed are really prophets. Not saying they are not good men, but they are not prophets. I would say it is a case of false advertisement.

Pastor Keith · #4 06-09-2007, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlie Brown

I picked up a Herald, something I haven't done in at least a year, and was browsing a Special Issue recently put out. I noticed that there is a "School of Prophets" conference going to be held in Stockton at Christian Life on July 23-27.

The listed preachers are Nathaniel Haney, Eli Lopez, Lee Stoneking, John Arcovio, Matt Maddix, Anthony Romo, and Ronnie Mullings.

My question is simple. Where are the Prophets?? Did they forget to list them?

I have a mixed review of this conference, as being one of the founding members and participants it did me much good in my youth. We would gather in the Mountains with the likes of Morton Bustard who despite what some on here think of him, influenced me to seek these gifts of God.

But it has gotten away from the simple, equipping, mentoring, create an environment for spiritual activity to the usual preaching conference where the attendees come and now watch the experts do their thing.

They will leave feeling energized, tell others that they heard great preaching, exhortation but leave little equipped or exercised their gifting.

Sad because it could be much more...

By the way Arcovio is a prophet, though his misses have been more highlighted than his successes. In my opinion he is the real deal.

Rhoni · #5 06-09-2007, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlie Brown

I picked up a Herald, something I haven't done in at least a year, and was browsing a Special Issue recently put out. I noticed that there is a "School of Prophets" conference going to be held in Stockton at Christian Life on July 23-27.

The listed preachers are Nathaniel Haney, Eli Lopez, Lee Stoneking, John Arcovio, Matt Maddix, Anthony Romo, and Ronnie Mullings.

My question is simple. Where are the Prophets?? Did they forget to list them?

I don't consider any of the speakers to be prophets so how would they know...interesting...

"GL" · #6 06-09-2007, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by keith4him

...By the way .......is a prophet, though his misses have been more highlighted than his successes. In my opinion he is the real deal.

The test of a true prophet...

Deut 18:20-22 But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in My name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die.' 21 And if you say in your heart, 'How shall we know the word which the Lord has not spoken?' — 22 when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the thing does not happen or come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him. (NKJV)

Pastor Keith · #7 06-09-2007, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by "GL"

The test of a true prophet...

Deut 18:20-22 But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in My name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die.' 21 And if you say in your heart, 'How shall we know the word which the Lord has not spoken?' — 22 when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the thing does not happen or come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him. (NKJV)

If this is the standard for NT prophets, then there isnt one alive. I disagree with this being the standard for NT prophets, this was the OT economy and the fact that the prophet spoke directly from God on the national stage. Also this a reference to the ulitmate prophet Jesus Christ.

I recommend reading Grudem's discourse on this theme.

"GL" · #8 06-09-2007, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by keith4him

If this is the standard for NT prophets, then there isnt one alive...

Wow, amazing that you would say that. When someone says "thus sayeth the Lord," when God didn't, I think it is fairly serious.

Is there mercy today? Certainly. Is there still a standard? I believe so.

As for reading the specific discourse you mentioned, I'm sticking with the Bible on this one.

Pastor Keith · #9 06-09-2007, 03:09 PM

When I was in Asia, a pastor there told a remarkable prophecy given to him by J. Arcovio about his building situation.

The gist being the landlord where they had church would give them trouble (came to pass)

And then proceeded to describe the new building where they would relocate (came to pass in every detail)

Thad · #10 06-09-2007, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by keith4him

If this is the standard for NT prophets, then there isnt one alive. I disagree with this being the standard for NT prophets, this was the OT economy and the fact that the prophet spoke directly from God on the national stage. Also this a reference to the ulitmate prophet Jesus Christ.

I recommend reading Grudem's discourse on this theme.

I agree. Men are subject to human Error of All sorts.
we don't throw a Pastor away when he makes an honest mistake
that can be corrected
although, when you say "GOD SAID IT" people really take that for face value. the Prophets need to be careful how they word things