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Old 08-02-2016, 07:08 PM
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So all of this excuses these people from politicizing the death of their own son?
I don't see anything wrong with his short speech. As with any convention, there will be those who are assigned to attack the other nominee's policy. The Khan's were chosen because they are muslim and disagree with Trump's policy.


"""Tonight we are honored to stand here as parents of Captain Humayun Khan and as patriotic American Muslims - with undivided loyalty to our country.

Like many immigrants, we came to this country empty-handed. We believed in American democracy; that with hard work and goodness of this country, we could share in and contribute to its blessings.

We are blessed to raise our three sons in a nation where they were free to be themselves and follow their dreams.

Our son, Humayun, had dreams too, of being a military lawyer, but he put those dreams aside the day he sacrificed his life to save the lives of his fellow soldiers. Hillary Clinton was right when she called my son 'the best of America'.

If it was up to Donald Trump, he never would have been in America. Donald Trump consistently smears the character of Muslims. He disrespects other minorities; women; judges; even his own party leadership.

He vows to build walls, and ban us from this country. Donald Trump, you're asking Americans to trust you with their future.

Let me ask you: have you even read the United States constitution? I will gladly lend you my copy. [he pulls it out] In this document, look for the words 'liberty' and 'equal protection of law'.

Have you ever been to Arlington Cemetery? Go look at the graves of brave patriots who died defending the United States of America.

You will see all faiths, genders and ethnicities. You have sacrificed nothing and no one.

We cannot solve our problems by building walls, sowing division. We are stronger together. And we will keep getting stronger when Hillary Clinton becomes our President.

In conclusion, I ask every patriot American, all Muslim immigrants, and all immigrants to not take this election lightly.

This is a historic election, and I request to honor the sacrifice of my son - and on election day, take the time to get out and vote.

And vote for the healer. vote for the strongest, most qualified candidate, Hillary Clinton, not the divider. God bless you, thank you."""

Other than Kazir endorsing Hillary, it was a good speech.
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Old 08-02-2016, 09:50 PM
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Ehhhhh, while I can't say I disagree with most of the contents of that speech (apart from the Shrillary endorsement, of course), I do have to concur that it definitely seems like he's politicizing the death of his son. Then again, one could make the same charge against Patricia Smith, and her speech at the RNC.

I'm not saying that's *necessarily* a bad thing (though, obviously, it can be), but there's a definite political flair to it.
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Old 08-02-2016, 10:00 PM
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I don't see anything wrong with his short speech. As with any convention, there will be those who are assigned to attack the other nominee's policy. The Khan's were chosen because they are muslim and disagree with Trump's policy.


"""Tonight we are honored to stand here as parents of Captain Humayun Khan and as patriotic American Muslims - with undivided loyalty to our country.

Like many immigrants, we came to this country empty-handed. We believed in American democracy; that with hard work and goodness of this country, we could share in and contribute to its blessings.

We are blessed to raise our three sons in a nation where they were free to be themselves and follow their dreams.

Our son, Humayun, had dreams too, of being a military lawyer, but he put those dreams aside the day he sacrificed his life to save the lives of his fellow soldiers. Hillary Clinton was right when she called my son 'the best of America'.

If it was up to Donald Trump, he never would have been in America. Donald Trump consistently smears the character of Muslims. He disrespects other minorities; women; judges; even his own party leadership.

He vows to build walls, and ban us from this country. Donald Trump, you're asking Americans to trust you with their future.

Let me ask you: have you even read the United States constitution? I will gladly lend you my copy. [he pulls it out] In this document, look for the words 'liberty' and 'equal protection of law'.

Have you ever been to Arlington Cemetery? Go look at the graves of brave patriots who died defending the United States of America.

You will see all faiths, genders and ethnicities. You have sacrificed nothing and no one.

We cannot solve our problems by building walls, sowing division. We are stronger together. And we will keep getting stronger when Hillary Clinton becomes our President.

In conclusion, I ask every patriot American, all Muslim immigrants, and all immigrants to not take this election lightly.

This is a historic election, and I request to honor the sacrifice of my son - and on election day, take the time to get out and vote.

And vote for the healer. vote for the strongest, most qualified candidate, Hillary Clinton, not the divider. God bless you, thank you."""

Other than Kazir endorsing Hillary, it was a good speech.
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Translation......don't let Trump enforce immigration laws or secure our border.
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Old 08-02-2016, 10:42 PM
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Translation......don't let Trump enforce immigration laws or secure our border.
Oy, that's a very loose and liberal translation.
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Old 08-03-2016, 07:23 AM
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Oy, that's a very loose and liberal translation.
But you know this is what they are upset about, as are some RINO's.
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Old 08-03-2016, 09:02 AM
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But you know this is what they are upset about, as are some RINO's.
I don't. I don't agree with that interpretation at all.
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Old 08-03-2016, 09:35 AM
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nd - so what is your translation?
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Old 08-03-2016, 09:38 AM
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nd - so what is your translation?
Of the speech? It is what it is. They, being muslim, were asked to speak out against Trump's policy on muslims. I don't believe they're against immigration laws, only that they're against their people being targeted.
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Old 08-05-2016, 03:13 AM
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Because, you know, there's always the chance terrorists might be immigrating from Iceland, the Isle of Man, or Norway...
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