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Old 01-20-2015, 02:22 PM
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Democrats Are For American Interests W/ Keystone!

"Senate Democrats said Tuesday they’ll push amendments to legislation approving the Keystone XL pipeline requiring that it’s built with domestically produced steel and that the oil it carries is used in the U.S."

What a great idea, right-- actually I thought it would be a given that the pipeline to be built on American soil would be built using AMERICAN steel and that the oil transported by the pipeline would be used here in America as well.

If this is the new negotiating point, I'd hate to see what things looked like BEFORE the negotiations!

When will ALL the people in Washington get a clue?!

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2015-0...mendments.html
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"Senate Democrats said Tuesday they’ll push amendments to legislation approving the Keystone XL pipeline requiring that it’s built with domestically produced steel and that the oil it carries is used in the U.S."

What a great idea, right-- actually I thought it would be a given that the pipeline to be built on American soil would be built using AMERICAN steel and that the oil transported by the pipeline would be used here in America as well.

If this is the new negotiating point, I'd hate to see what things looked like BEFORE the negotiations!

When will ALL the people in Washington get a clue?!

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2015-0...mendments.html
What this does is essentially kill the bill without the President having to veto it as he's repeatedly threatened to do.

They don't have "American" interests at heart, they have 2016 interests and beyond at heart.

You're incredibly gullible if you believe this. Sorry, but you really are.
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Old 01-20-2015, 02:58 PM
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Re: Democrats Are For American Interests W/ Keysto

FYI, I'm not for the Keystone deal, but not for the same reasons as obama and most Democrats.
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Old 01-20-2015, 03:26 PM
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What this does is essentially kill the bill without the President having to veto it as he's repeatedly threatened to do.

They don't have "American" interests at heart, they have 2016 interests and beyond at heart.

You're incredibly gullible if you believe this. Sorry, but you really are.
But why would insisting that the steel used to build the pipeline be American steel and that at least some of the oil transported be used in America kill this bill?
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But why would insisting that the steel used to build the pipeline be American steel and that at least some of the oil transported be used in America kill this bill?
Because Keystone is a Canadian company. They've already threatened to stop the project if Democrats force this.

THAT'S how to kill the bill without making obama veto it.

You got played. The Democrats don't care about US steel, they just want to appear they do. All they want is for Keystone to die without voting against it.

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Because Keystone is a Canadian company. They've already threatened to stop the project if Democrats force this.

THAT'S how to kill the bill without making obama veto it.

You got played. The Democrats don't care about US steel, they just want to appear they do. All they want is for Keystone to die without voting against it.
So this Canadian company that wnats to build a pipeline across our country wants to use non U.S. steel to build it and that is supposed to be alright and acceptable?

The oil being transported is not supposed to help Americans but that is supposed to be acceptable?
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So this Canadian company that wnats to build a pipeline across our country wants to use non U.S. steel to build it and that is supposed to be alright and acceptable?

The oil being transported is not supposed to help Americans but that is supposed to be acceptable?
Only when the GOP thinks it is.
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So this Canadian company that wnats to build a pipeline across our country wants to use non U.S. steel to build it and that is supposed to be alright and acceptable?

The oil being transported is not supposed to help Americans but that is supposed to be acceptable?
Think, JD, think. Stop being so gullible and think about this.

1) Who says they're not using steel made in the US? Source it.
2) Who says the oil won't be used here either? Source it.
3) What gives the Democrats the right to demand what products a private company uses in its construction?

Look, I'm not for this Keystone bill. The US Congress should not be passing a law to benefit a single, private business. If this bill was open to all oil companies, I would be more inclined to support it, but it isn't. However, I'm also not going to applaud Democrats for demanding and trying to dictate which products a private company uses in its construction. That's a stupid and incredibly bad precedent to set.

Think it through, JD. Put off the partisan blinders and use your brain.
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Think, JD, think. Stop being so gullible and think about this.

1) Who says they're not using steel made in the US? Source it.
2) Who says the oil won't be used here either? Source it.

3) What gives the Democrats the right to demand what products a private company uses in its construction?

Look, I'm not for this Keystone bill. The US Congress should not be passing a law to benefit a single, private business. If this bill was open to all oil companies, I would be more inclined to support it, but it isn't. However, I'm also not going to applaud Democrats for demanding and trying to dictate which products a private company uses in its construction. That's a stupid and incredibly bad precedent to set.

Think it through, JD. Put off the partisan blinders and use your brain.
If these two things are part of the plan, why should or would this hold up the project? If this was part of the plan, why cant the GOP get behind this?
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If these two things are part of the plan, why should or would this hold up the project? If this was part of the plan, why cant the GOP get behind this?
Well, all we have is JD complaining and making allegations. I've read nothing to support his claims.

I can understand a foreign company objecting to a government trying to force them to use a certain product in construction of their pipeline.

Again, Congress shouldn't be favoring one company in a bill at all. Especially a foreign company. Seriously. The US Congress is passing a bill to help a foreign country's private company build a pipeline through the US. smh

I'd suggest using an American company to build the US portion of the pipeline, but obama and Democrats would still be against it.
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