Gateway's New DVD - shocker

Sherri · #1 05-30-2007, 03:27 PM

I just watched Gateway's new choir DVD that was recorded last month in St. Louis. It is AWESOME, by the way. But I was amazed at the way things have changed in the 16 years since we left UPC. The entire choir was dancing (boogeying) to the music, and I don't mean in the Spirit. From someone who has not been around UPC music/artists much in the past 16 years, the change blew me away. Trust me, I thought the music and moves were great, but this is something we used to get criticized for - dancing around, jumping, etc. to the music beat with our eyes open and not doing the shockamoo stuff. When did this all happen???

rgcraig · #2 05-30-2007, 03:31 PM

You haven't seen the choreographed dancing in UPC before?

BoredOutOfMyMind · #3 05-30-2007, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

You haven't seen the choreographed dancing in UPC before?

The Stick deal that came through was odd also Sherri.

LaVonne · #4 05-30-2007, 03:38 PM

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The Stick deal that came through was odd also Sherri.

They started doing this back in Oregon awhile back...Not sure I like it all that much myself.

BoredOutOfMyMind · #5 05-30-2007, 03:41 PM

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They started doing this back in Oregon awhile back...Not sure I like it all that much myself.

Incredible - I have only seen it "performed" in UC churches!

LaVonne · #6 05-30-2007, 03:42 PM

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Incredible - I have only seen it "performed" in UC churches!

Really? Ours was moderate...however, they did let a trinitarian pastor preach there not too long ago...

Sherri · #7 05-30-2007, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

You haven't seen the choreographed dancing in UPC before?

A couple of years ago, my brother was preaching at a church not far from here, so my parents and I went to hear him, since we rarely get to. The choir was singing and they were all jumping up and down to the music and that kind of blew me away then. But this DVD, they were absolutely DANCING, and I thought that was totally forbidden.

#8 05-30-2007, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherri

A couple of years ago, my brother was preaching at a church not far from here, so my parents and I went to hear him, since we rarely get to. The choir was singing and they were all jumping up and down to the music and that kind of blew me away then. But this DVD, they were absolutely DANCING, and I thought that was totally forbidden.

Dancing for God is not condemned by the bible. I don't understand that logic.

#9 05-30-2007, 04:00 PM

This has been going on in some churches for a number of years.
The dowel rods (stick thing) was ignominously called "Stick it" by members of our old church. It was okay to watch at first, but felt like it was more of a show eventually and not terribly inspired IMO.
I enjoy good music, but do feel that when people are just dancing and not doing it for the Lord, then it is plainly carnal.
On a side note, Bro Stoneking once said "We may start out in the flesh, but we can end up in the Spirit" so with that in mind it is certainly possible for it to become towards the Lord. I just would not want to see it degraded to become something that is charismatic and ungodly.

Sherri · #10 05-30-2007, 04:01 PM

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Dancing for God is not condemned by the bible. I don't understand that logic.

Ok, I don't think it is wrong either, but we were ALWAYS taught in UPC that it was "flesh" if you weren't "dancing in the Spirit". I'm just saying that 16 years ago, this would never have been accepted. If you have been in UPC all this time, you have probably not noticed the gradual progression. Being gone all these years, it was very obvious.