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Old 07-08-2013, 01:51 AM
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struggling with loss

I find myself up late really struggling with the loss of my mother. I feel partly responsible because I was her caregiver for a few years. Within those years we gave her bible studies and she was then baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Her health grew worse over time so I am worried that she died unsaved since we are not 100% sure that she received the Holy Ghost before she passed. This is really tormenting me right now and I pray for some peace in this storm.
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Old 07-08-2013, 02:17 AM
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Re: struggling with loss

Act 15:11 But we believe that we will be saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, just as they will."
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Old 07-08-2013, 02:18 AM
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Pro 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding.
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  3. Every sinner must repent of their sins.
  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
  5. That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
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Old 07-08-2013, 03:45 AM
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Re: struggling with loss

My condolences on the loss of your precious Mama.
Praying for you that God gives you peace and assurance.
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Old 07-08-2013, 07:32 AM
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Re: struggling with loss

I lost one of my uncles whom I was extremely close to. I do not know if he was saved b4 he died of a massive heart attack, but all I can do is hold on to what I truly believe.....I will see him in Heaven one day. Don't allow Satan to try and torment you friend. That is his way to steal your time from you that you can be rejoicing over seeing your mum one day BIG HUGS to you friend~ Praying for your inner peace in the midst of your storm!
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Old 07-08-2013, 09:45 AM
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Re: struggling with loss

God does not want you to be tormented with these thoughts. Your mind keeps playing WHAT IF she is not saved? But WHAT IF she is?

When my Grandpa died, I wondered if he was saved. I felt this scripture when I prayed. To them that hath shall be given more and to those that have not, even that which they had will be taken away. (my paraphrase). This meant to me that, if my grandpa was saved, he would be fine but if he wasn't, even that which I loved and cherished was no longer a part of him. In other words, I could love and cherish every memory of him because if he was not saved, those memories were mine. They did not belong to him. That which he had on this earth.....if he was evil......would be removed and the memories belonged to me alone. God wanted me to cherish and love those memories. This removed the What If and allowed me to love and grieve and put aside and TRUST God to make the right decision regarding his soul.

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Old 07-08-2013, 01:44 PM
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Thank you so much for your prayers. In the beginning when I first gave my life to Christ my mother was against the truth. But little by little she began to take steps towards Christ on her own. She requested to be baptized in Jesus name a few years ago. Recently when she was hospitalized my sister witnessed her begin to shake and her tongue was moving but she was unable to make a sound because she was extremely sick and frail. I do believe in my heart that she was filled with the Holy Ghost. God is good and I know that if someone takes that first step towards salvation he will complete his work in them.
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Old 07-08-2013, 04:28 PM
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Re: struggling with loss

Hi Yvette

I'm sorry for you loss.

Do you really think the shaking and the tongue-movement is what saved your mom? Frankly i'm not familiar with that gospel. The Lord clearly says in His word that whomsover believeth in Him has eternal life. I'm convinced that believing comes with repentance and we are saved by His grace through faith in Christ. Your mom gained eternal life the moment she believed on Christ. that's my understanding of the Holy Scriptures
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Old 07-08-2013, 05:57 PM
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Hi Yvette

. I'm convinced that believing comes with repentance and we are saved by His grace through faith in Christ. Your mom gained eternal life the moment she believed on Christ. that's my understanding of the Holy Scriptures
Well said! Thats how i feel. Though i nver spoken in tongues id like to think im saved...
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Hi Yvette

I'm sorry for you loss.

Do you really think the shaking and the tongue-movement is what saved your mom? Frankly i'm not familiar with that gospel. The Lord clearly says in His word that whomsover believeth in Him has eternal life. I'm convinced that believing comes with repentance and we are saved by His grace through faith in Christ. Your mom gained eternal life the moment she believed on Christ. that's my understanding of the Holy Scriptures
Yes I do and that is the true gospel that Jesus taught Nicodemus. I am actually very surprised that you are on an Apostolic forum and do not know the scriptures. Believing itself is the first step towards obedience to Gods word. If you remember Nicodemus was a teacher of the law, a Pharisee. He went to Jesus privately and asked what must I do to be saved:

Jesus Teaches Nicodemus

John 3

King James Version (KJV)

3 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:

2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.

3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?

10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?

11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.

12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

Fast forward to Acts 2:38 we then find Peter teaching the exact same gospel,

Acts 2:38-39

New King James Version (NKJV)

38 Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 For the promise is to you and to your children, and to all who are afar off, as many as the Lord our God will call.”

This is truth and this the only truth. You cannot substitute it for another. Quite frankly I would seriously go and read these scriptures and pray for direction. God will open up your mind and understanding to the scriptures. To me this is very important and if I am not baptized in the name of Jesus and filled with the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues then we are not saved and this is not according to my own thinking but it is based on the teachings of Jesus Christ. Now we can refuse to obey what we just read, it is our choice. God created us with a free will but I would seriously consider reexamining your doctrine.

God Bless
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