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Old 05-23-2013, 06:53 PM
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It's pure religious violence.
It's political violence. No different from the violence we impose on them.
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It's political violence. No different from the violence we impose on them.
No, it's pure religious violence. Religious sects fighting among themselves, killing men, women and children, religious sects killing the 'infidels'.

Islam is the most violent RELIGION on the face of the earth today. Just check the news.
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It's political violence. No different from the violence we impose on them.
I partly agree however it's really politicized religious violence.

It's never "America does this to my country" but "They are in a war against Islam"...

Your religion is being used as a political means to manipulate ignorant people to commit violent acts in the name of Allah.

Catholics went through the same thing hundreds of years ago to "fight" for their church when it was really all about some religious/political leaders aspirations
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I partly agree however it's really politicized religious violence.

It's never "America does this to my country" but "They are in a war against Islam"...

Your religion is being used as a political means to manipulate ignorant people to commit violent acts in the name of Allah.

Catholics went through the same thing hundreds of years ago to "fight" for their church when it was really all about some religious/political leaders aspirations
You are right and certainly the crusades and the inquisition and violence in Ireland other religious movements had nothing to do with religion.

The leaders in these Muslim countries where Sunnis and Shias battle back and forth use and manipulate religious beliefs to trigger response for or against political policies and at the end of the day what better motivation than religion is there?

The latest attack in London was a nigerian whose rave/rant included calls to remove outsiders from Nigeria. When I worked for <company name redacted but not American> it was not uncommon for us to occasionally lose employees to "religious violence" in Nigeria. Was it because of the religion?

Nigeria has around 30 billion bbls of crude in their reserves (+/- estimate LOL) and the people there as of 2010 or so had as of around 2010 a per capita income of $2700 annually. There is a very, very deep resentment among the people there that outside oil companies are there extracting resources while the people live in poverty.

So what is the driver? Purely religion? By no stretch of the imagination does "God" benefit from who extracts oil in Nigeria but it is very easy to imagine how a sale could be made to the average person that "the Muslim people are being robbed" which would then trigger action against the perceived perpetrators of that robbery.

In the case of Nigeria that sale is made on the street and not by those in power who pocket the profits.
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