Moses Had The Holy Spirit

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by larrylyates

There was a very specific operation of the Holy Spirit in the OT times that was clearly distinct and different to that which is available to us today.

Eze 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
Eze 36:27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

You pointed out that you can't have what wasn't yet given, in this case the Holy Ghost in the OT. If the OT folks didn't have the Holy Ghost which is needed for salvation, how were they saved? Did the Holy Ghost change between the OT and the NT or was there a different savior in the OT as compared to the NT?

You also indicated that the Holy Ghost operated distinctly and different to how He operates today, but it was still the same Holy Ghost, wasn't it? How did the Holy Ghost role of salvation differ between the OT and the NT?

[larrylyates]

Originally Posted by seekerman

You pointed out that you can't have what wasn't yet given, in this case the Holy Ghost in the OT. If the OT folks didn't have the Holy Ghost which is needed for salvation, how were they saved? Did the Holy Ghost change between the OT and the NT or was there a different savior in the OT as compared to the NT?

You also indicated that the Holy Ghost operated distinctly and different to how He operates today, but it was still the same Holy Ghost, wasn't it? How did the Holy Ghost role of salvation differ between the OT and the NT?

seekerman, I so enjoy our discussions. I do however, feel that some of them are better held in a different forum. You ask things that are not easily answered in a paragraph or two. I've given more than enough Scriptural support in my previous posts to enable any serious student of the Bible to search out the truth on this issue. I feel sometimes you may enjoy arguing just for the sake of argument. Even you understand the difference between the two Covenants and the way in which God operates in the various dispensations. We don't need to belabor that here. it's getting late here and I have miles to go before I sleep. Visit my website at: miraclesinaction.weebly.com or my blog at: larrylyates.blogspot.com
If you don't find what you're looking for there, we'll live to talk another day. Lord bless!

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by larrylyates

seekerman, I so enjoy our discussions. I do however, feel that some of them are better held in a different forum. You ask things that are not easily answered in a paragraph or two. I've given more than enough Scriptural support in my previous posts to enable any serious student of the Bible to search out the truth on this issue. I feel sometimes you may enjoy arguing just for the sake of argument. Even you understand the difference between the two Covenants and the way in which God operates in the various dispensations. We don't need to belabor that here. it's getting late here and I have miles to go before I sleep. Visit my website at: miraclesinaction.weebly.com or my blog at: larrylyates.blogspot.com
If you don't find what you're looking for there, we'll live to talk another day. Lord bless!

It's simple really, the Holy Ghost wasn't given until the New Testament, according to scripture, yet we have OT saints who are saved without the NT Holy Ghost. If the NT Holy Ghost is a requirement for salvation then the OT saints are lost for they did not have this NT Holy Ghost.

Thanks for the conversation though, maybe we can continue at another time.

[asternship]

scripture says that GOD moved on the outward of Man in the Old Testament.Holy Ghost was poured out on the Day of Pentecost..

The OT says GOD buried Moses.In the New Testament we find Moses being buried By GOD (Jesus).So being baptized (With Jesus ) He received the Spirit from Jesus.So by NT standards Moses received the correct burial and Spirit of GOD.

[Livelystone]

1 Peter 1:11
Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

There certainly were individuals in the Old Testament who had the Holy Spirit indwelling them and to say otherwise is to deny the Scriptures.

Looks like a couple of people have beat up on Sheila pretty hard. Kind of reminds me of the end of Hebrews 5 where it speaks of teachers who still need to be taught.

None of us have it all right and personally I commend Sheila for stepping up to the plate with as many OT quotes as she had to support her position. Albeit she did make a mistake regarding Moses being the greatest Prophet, that was hardly sufficient reason to stone her for it.

BTW. Ezekiel is prophesying of the HS being poured out same as others in the OT did.

Acts 2:16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;

17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

The OT is a prophecy of both the NT and today the same as the NT is of today because much of NT prophecy is based on OT prophecy still being fulfilled

Blessings

Doug

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by Originalist

You are not rightly dividing the word. Jesus "breathed' on his disciples and told them to receive the Spirit. This indicates that what was breathed into man in the garden of Eden had to be restored, namely, eternal life. Because of sin, God could no longer dwell in man. Christ had to shed his blood, rise from the dead, and be glorified in order for man to be a fit habitation for the Spirit to live in. John 7 is CLEAR..."The Holy ghost was NOT YET GIVEN because Jesus was not glorified..." Jesus did not come to remind us that we already had the Spirit, he came that we might have the Spirit, something that we did NOT have. To believe otherwise is to be clueless as to the gospel.

Christ did not come to remind us that we had the spirit because virtually all of us did not. I haven't seen any born again Christian's faces shining with light yet. Um, and Moses was pre-Christ, of course, making this post moot. Or null? Void? Ya.

Nice, Shiela; betcha Moses woulda laughed at 'Spirit lite.'