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02-13-2013, 04:57 PM
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Re: State Of The Union 2013
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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind
we are just getting started. the senate passed the violence against women act as marco rubio along with rand paul voted against it. how does that broaden the appeal of the gop?
the president can not do anything the congress doesn't appove of. so how is obama to blame? we are on the congressional schedule.
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Why did they vote against it, DM? It is because it is not the federal government's job. It is the states that have the jurisdiction to prosecute any acts of violence.
I don't know why we wouldn't be happy for anyone to stand on the side of the Constitution in this country.
I believe that Rubio is the GOP's token Hispanic, although he is actually Cuban. And I am not sure the Hispanics view him as a Latino. We will see if he can reconcile the differences. He does have a good voting record, but he does also have his roots with Bush. He owes a lot to Jeb Bush - expanding the base by appealing to Hispanic voters - enters Rubio. Jeb's money man, Al Cardenas brought Rubio to Jeb's attention. I'd like to get rid of all of those people associated with Bush and have new blood.
However, if I am 90% pleased with Rubio's record and they don't offer someone better, I will probably vote for him. I saw O'Reilly already starting the conversation, just like Brit Hume did with Romney, that Rubio is the moderate and Rand is the Conservative. IOW, already poising to paint Rand as too far right to win. Faux news and the GOP - you gotta love them OR hate them.
I also half expect that Christie will play the part of the Biggest Loser and win by default. We will see if that happens. He may have eaten his last doughnut on Letterman. Everyone loves a winner.
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02-13-2013, 05:43 PM
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Re: State Of The Union 2013
Cubans aren't Hispanic?
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02-13-2013, 05:46 PM
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Re: State Of The Union 2013
The state of the union was the lowest rated SOTU in 14 years...
Libs are passionate about winning elections, they are less passionate about solving the nations problems. Too stubborn to admit the obvious: liberalism/big government doesn't work. It stifles economic growth and freedom.
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When a newspaper posed the question, "What's Wrong with the World?" G. K. Chesterton reputedly wrote a brief letter in response: "Dear Sirs: I am. Sincerely Yours, G. K. Chesterton." That is the attitude of someone who has grasped the message of Jesus.
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02-13-2013, 06:03 PM
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Re: State Of The Union 2013
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Cubans aren't Hispanic?
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Non-Cuban Hispanics have voiced their angst against Cuban immigrants receiving more benefits, i.e, special political and immigration status. Pew research showed, during the last election, that more than half of the Hispanics identify their family origin to be Mexico, not Cuba.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out with Rubio being the GOP's rising star.
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02-13-2013, 06:14 PM
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Re: State Of The Union 2013
Ron Paul's response to the State of the Union Address:
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Tonight, President Obama once again showed that he does not represent the fundamental change this country needs. Instead of offering solutions to the problems our country faces, the President was intent on delivering a campaign speech, further dealing in the typical Washington political gamesmanship that has gotten us exactly nowhere close to improving the lives of the American people.
In a speech where much of the rhetoric was devoted to job creation, it was strange that President Obama would brag about his job-destroying national health care plan, Obamacare, and the Dodd-Frank bill, which, contrary to the President’s claims, guarantees future taxpayer bailouts of large institutions. Unfortunately, President Obama’s ‘job creation’ policies amount to little more than continuing to allow government bureaucrats to pick winners and losers, which is a recipe for continued economic stagnation.
President Obama claims to want an economy where everyone gets a fair shot, everyone does their fair share, and everyone plays by the same set of rules. Yet he remains committed to the same old system of debt, deficits, bailouts, and cronyism that created our economic problems. The President speaks of giving us energy independence from unstable nations, yet he refuses to allow the type of development needed to achieve this goal, while at the same time his administration hands out favors to the politically connected – those given to the likes of Solyndra, who fail to produce jobs or energy but succeed in ripping off the taxpayers.
Of course, President Obama refuses to even mention the role the Federal Reserve plays in creating an economic system where some are denied a fair shot or even to support my efforts at bringing transparency to the Federal Reserve. Also not mentioned by President Obama is the very crucial need for reining in spending and balancing the federal budget. What is called by some ‘the greatest threat to our national security’ seems not to be of great importance to this President, although I, like many Americans, believe it to be cause for immediate measures, like the $1 trillion in spending cuts that would take place in my first year as President under my Plan to Restore America.
In the area of foreign policy and civil liberties, President Obama’s rhetoric may be different, but the substance of his polices – as shown by his administration’s defense of the TSA’s treatment of my son, Senator Rand Paul, is hardly ‘change we can believe in.’ No wonder more and more Americans, especially young people, are rejecting the phony alternatives of Obama and establishment Republicans and embracing my campaign to Restore America Now.
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02-19-2013, 10:20 AM
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Re: State Of The Union 2013
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Cubans aren't Hispanic?
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Deacon,
I ran across this article. Thought you might be interested.
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Dear GOP, Cubans are not Mexican
Due to an act of Congress, Cuban nationals who arrive in the U.S. after 1959 cannot be illegal immigrants. They're automatically refugees. It's amnesty! The federal government has spent billions to assist those who've fled Castro's regime. It was a Cold War policy, signed by President Johnson. If they can get to our shores (many have died in the process), they have an instant pathway to citizenship.
I say this to Republicans who seem to be aspiring now to win the Latino vote: Cubans are not Mexicans. So when the party touts Florida Sen. Marco Rubio as their go-to Latino, they're not wooing the 31 million Latinos who identify themselves as Mexican-American, the biggest Latino voting bloc in the U.S.
http://www.dailyworld.com/article/20...nclick_check=1
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02-19-2013, 12:28 PM
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Re: State Of The Union 2013
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Non-Cuban Hispanics have voiced their angst against Cuban immigrants receiving more benefits, i.e, special political and immigration status. Pew research showed, during the last election, that more than half of the Hispanics identify their family origin to be Mexico, not Cuba.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out with Rubio being the GOP's rising star.
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i think moderate mexicans and other moderate latino groups can be swayed by a cuban.
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02-19-2013, 12:46 PM
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Re: State Of The Union 2013
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i think moderate mexicans and other moderate latino groups can be swayed by a cuban.
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I could probably agree with you there.
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