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11-25-2012, 03:59 PM
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Can a true Christian embrace Che Guevarra ?
How can a true Christian support a murderer at heart?
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"If the missiles had remained, we would have fired them against the very heart of the U.S., including New York. The victory of socialism is well worth millions of atomic victims.”
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(Che Guevara, November 1962.)
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11-25-2012, 04:06 PM
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Re: Can a true Christiam embrace Che Guevarra ?
i don't embrace che's total socialism. third way is what bill clinton and obama espouse. using the free market to achieve the goals of socialism without government control of the economy but free market principles that help alleviate poverty, increase education for the populace and regulate income inequality with a progressive tax code and universal healthcare. those should be the goals of any sincere, authentic and conscience led christian.
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11-25-2012, 04:09 PM
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Re: Can a true Christiam embrace Che Guevarra ?
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i don't embrace che's total socialism. third way is what bill clinton and obama espouse. using the free market to achieve the goals of socialism without government control of the economy but free market principles that help alleviate poverty, increase education for the populace and regulate income inequality with a progressive tax code and universal healthcare. those should be the goals of any sincere, authentic and conscience led christian.
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Then why use an image of a mass murderer at heart...... brother ?
Furthermore ,our " progressive tax code" has not helped the poor. Why not embrace the FAIR TAX?
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11-25-2012, 04:18 PM
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Re: Can a true Christiam embrace Che Guevarra ?
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Then why use an image of a mass murderer at heart......brother ?
Furthermore ,our "progressive tax code" has not helped the poor. Why not embrace the FAIR TAX?
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we need more progressivity in america and christians need to be aware of the alternatives and become more socially conscious. moving away from the other worldliness of salvation in the afterlife to salvation and the kingdom of God in the here and now. To help the poor is to help Christ. Our "christian" system of government should reflect that.
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11-25-2012, 04:21 PM
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Re: Can a true Christiam embrace Che Guevarra ?
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How can a true Christian support a murderer at heart?
(Che Guevara, November 1962.)
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Well you can be a "true Christian" and embrace just about anything these days and if anyone says anything about it they're evil ultra-cons.
But I'll be the evil ultra-con today... no, ABSOLUTELY not.
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11-25-2012, 04:23 PM
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Re: Can a true Christiam embrace Che Guevarra ?
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we need more progressivity in america and christians need to be aware of the alternatives and become more socially conscious. moving away from the other worldliness of salvation in the afterlife to salvation and the kingdom of God in the here and now. To help the poor is to help Christ. Our "christian" system of government should reflect that.
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what does that have to do with a picture of a murderer?
Our Government is not a Christian system. It's a secular government.
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11-25-2012, 04:24 PM
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Re: Can a true Christiam embrace Che Guevarra ?
Where have these principles been put into effect and worked?
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
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- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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11-25-2012, 04:25 PM
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Re: Can a true Christiam embrace Che Guevarra ?
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How can a true Christian support a murderer at heart?
(Che Guevara, November 1962.)
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Well you can be a "true Christian" and embrace just about anything these days and if anyone says anything about it they're evil ultra-cons.
But I'll be the evil ultra-con today... no, ABSOLUTELY not.
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has george bush murdered anyone innocent?
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11-25-2012, 04:29 PM
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Re: Can a true Christiam embrace Che Guevarra ?
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what does that have to do with a picture of a murderer?
Our Government is not a Christian system. It's a secular government.
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i don't advocate violence but che was fighting for freedom and social equality. is george washington, abraham lincoln, george bush a murderer?
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11-25-2012, 04:29 PM
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Re: Can a true Christiam embrace Che Guevarra ?
I do not believe that these men should be embraced. Socialism has destroyed the few morals that were existent in Europe and the United States. When your economic system is founded on greed, envy, jealousy, and lust, you have opened the nation to anger, bitterness, resentment, riotous behavior, murder, and other forms of immorality. After all, does not the 'upper class' owe the 'lower class' and the 'suppressed masses' their unlimited and unrestrained freedom. This is the growth of socialism.
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