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View Poll Results: Are sins forgiven at repentance or baptism?
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07-24-2012, 10:02 PM
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Jesus' Name Pentecostal
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Re: New Doctrine Emerges: NOT Forgiven at Repentan
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Originally Posted by Saul Stephen
What a wonderful truth we have shared, thank you, God bless you and your two children, your wife Pat, and perhaps an other wish, Cin,chilli, Mt. Wash. chilli parlor. say, now that's a thought dear friend.
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07-25-2012, 09:52 AM
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Unvaxxed Pureblood
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Re: New Doctrine Emerges: NOT Forgiven at Repentan
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Esaias, if you are the same Esaias who use to post here but left, good to see you back. If not, welcome, you have acquired a name that brings back fond memories both here on AFF, GNC, and NFCF.
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Why thank you! Yes, I'm back!
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07-25-2012, 10:16 AM
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Unvaxxed Pureblood
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Re: New Doctrine Emerges: NOT Forgiven at Repentan
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Originally Posted by Saul Stephen
Repentance must always be defined, if the repentant is sincere and honest he is truly forgiven, if not why venture further so burdened and denied? We must remember that redemption is not so divided of its self , as to not be as real in forgiving us, as it is in the giving of his gift. this singular act is progressive in all of its endeavor. The part here that seemingly divides the body of Christ is in the putting away our filthy sins that have been forgiven, that remain still, the dead body that needs washed in his blood in Jesus Name. this is where we are divided! you are forgiven, yes, but your sins need to be remitted, and only Jesus can do this, this he has prepared for us in the shedding of his blood. and we enter into him to complete this work of divine grace. the blood is applies in baptism, but never question the very moment we came to him, please, it is very real, and very precious,
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Remission and forgiveness are the same thing. If you spoke and read Greek, not English, you would never have this idea that forgiven sins still need to be 'remitted'.
Remission is cancellation of a debt, as is forgiveness. 'Forgive us our debts' etc.
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07-25-2012, 12:17 PM
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Registered Member
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Join Date: Jul 2012
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Re: New Doctrine Emerges: NOT Forgiven at Repentan
Acts 2:38 , KJV, not Greek, English, yes. what seems to be your problem with English, let alone Greek? seems you protest to much!
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07-31-2012, 11:32 AM
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Unvaxxed Pureblood
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Re: New Doctrine Emerges: NOT Forgiven at Repentan
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Originally Posted by Saul Stephen
Acts 2:38 , KJV, not Greek, English, yes. what seems to be your problem with English, let alone Greek? seems you protest to much!
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I have no problem with English. But basing a doctrine on a translator's use of a synonym is hardly 'sound'.
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