The Keystone Pipeline

deacon blues · #1 12-13-2011, 09:41 PM

So a pipeline project from Canada to Louisiana that would provide 20,000 shovel-ready jobs for Americans, and President Obama won't make a decision until after the election. He says we have to do something now about jobs but he won't approve this project because his rabid environmentalist supporters are hoilding him hostage. In other words, getting reelected is more important than jobs for Americans, lower energy prices and greater independence from Middle Eatern and Venezuelan oil. Even the unions are for it! And that's his conundrum. He has two constituencies at odds over this, so President Obama does what he's been doing since his state legislature days: vote present. Canada is saying if we won't take their oil, they'll send it to China. Folks, there is no doubt that Mr. Obama seems very nice, congenial, has a good marriage and two beautiful daughters. I believe he's sincere and really cares about Americans. But he and his advisors don't understand economics, job creation, consumer confidence, housing, Wall Street, Main Street, small business, currency policy, trade policy, foreign policy. They don't understand leadership. Leaders make decisions. Leaders lead. Leaders do the right thing even when a voting bloc complains. Who are those environmentalists going to vote for anyway? The GOP candidate? They'd still vote for him regardless of the pipeline. He just doesn't have the leadership quality that presidents need to have. I'm extremely disappointed in this president to say the least. Not that I expected him to win me over. His rhetoric in 2008 told me enough that he would take a bad economy and make it worse. I tried to warn people. People wouldn't listen.

Obama's campaign slogan might be "It would've been worse". The GOP slogan uoght to be, "It should've improved".

RandyWayne · #2 12-13-2011, 09:52 PM

.........I guess I don't believe he "cares about America". He has been apologizing for America to every nation on the planet since his election.

Sam · #3 12-14-2011, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne

.........I guess I don't believe he "cares about America". He has been apologizing for America to every nation on the planet since his election.

I think he wants to turn this country into a second rate socialist state like Greece.

Aquila · #4 12-14-2011, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by deacon blues

So a pipeline project from Canada to Louisiana that would provide 20,000 shovel-ready jobs for Americans, and President Obama won't make a decision until after the election. He says we have to do something now about jobs but he won't approve this project because his rabid environmentalist supporters are hoilding him hostage. In other words, getting reelected is more important than jobs for Americans, lower energy prices and greater independence from Middle Eatern and Venezuelan oil. Even the unions are for it! And that's his conundrum. He has two constituencies at odds over this, so President Obama does what he's been doing since his state legislature days: vote present. Canada is saying if we won't take their oil, they'll send it to China. Folks, there is no doubt that Mr. Obama seems very nice, congenial, has a good marriage and two beautiful daughters. I believe he's sincere and really cares about Americans. But he and his advisors don't understand economics, job creation, consumer confidence, housing, Wall Street, Main Street, small business, currency policy, trade policy, foreign policy. They don't understand leadership. Leaders make decisions. Leaders lead. Leaders do the right thing even when a voting bloc complains. Who are those environmentalists going to vote for anyway? The GOP candidate? They'd still vote for him regardless of the pipeline. He just doesn't have the leadership quality that presidents need to have. I'm extremely disappointed in this president to say the least. Not that I expected him to win me over. His rhetoric in 2008 told me enough that he would take a bad economy and make it worse. I tried to warn people. People wouldn't listen.

Obama's campaign slogan might be "It would've been worse". The GOP slogan uoght to be, "It should've improved".

A number of those jobs will be union jobs. Could a Republican candidate who commits to the pipeline pick up the labor vote?

Aquila · #5 12-14-2011, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam

I think he wants to turn this country into a second rate socialist state like Greece.

After seeing four years of him... I have to agree.

deacon blues · #6 12-14-2011, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquila

A number of those jobs will be union jobs. Could a Republican candidate who commits to the pipeline pick up the labor vote?

Certainly. Not all union members vote the way union leadership expects. In fact unions are losing membership all the time. There used to be about 20% of American labor unionized. It's about 10% today. They are losing their clout more and more. However, the union bosses control the union coffers and they still contribute large sums to Democrats. This is the hesitancy on BOs part. He doesn't wanter alienate either constituency because elf the $ factor, more so than the votes IMO.

onefaith2 · #7 12-14-2011, 12:57 PM

Does anybody like Obama? lol

Sam · #8 12-15-2011, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by onefaith2

Does anybody like Obama? lol

Oh yeah. He still has his fans and those who defend him no matter what he says or does.

canam · #9 12-15-2011, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by deacon blues

So a pipeline project from Canada to Louisiana that would provide 20,000 shovel-ready jobs for Americans, and President Obama won't make a decision until after the election. He says we have to do something now about jobs but he won't approve this project because his rabid environmentalist supporters are hoilding him hostage. In other words, getting reelected is more important than jobs for Americans, lower energy prices and greater independence from Middle Eatern and Venezuelan oil. Even the unions are for it! And that's his conundrum. He has two constituencies at odds over this, so President Obama does what he's been doing since his state legislature days: vote present. Canada is saying if we won't take their oil, they'll send it to China. Folks, there is no doubt that Mr. Obama seems very nice, congenial, has a good marriage and two beautiful daughters. I believe he's sincere and really cares about Americans. But he and his advisors don't understand economics, job creation, consumer confidence, housing, Wall Street, Main Street, small business, currency policy, trade policy, foreign policy. They don't understand leadership. Leaders make decisions. Leaders lead. Leaders do the right thing even when a voting bloc complains. Who are those environmentalists going to vote for anyway? The GOP candidate? They'd still vote for him regardless of the pipeline. He just doesn't have the leadership quality that presidents need to have. I'm extremely disappointed in this president to say the least. Not that I expected him to win me over. His rhetoric in 2008 told me enough that he would take a bad economy and make it worse. I tried to warn people. People wouldn't listen.

Obama's campaign slogan might be "It would've been worse". The GOP slogan uoght to be, "It should've improved".

Preach !

Aquila · #10 12-15-2011, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by onefaith2

Does anybody like Obama? lol

I "liked" him. And I think he's a good man. However, I don't agree with his politics. I will admit, I voted for him. I underestimated his socialist leanings. He's maybe the second Democrat I've ever voted for. I know this much... I'm not voting for him in the next election. lol

And for the record... most of the folks I know who voted for him are disenchanted with him... the only exception are the few diehard Democrats that I know.