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Old 04-05-2011, 09:04 AM
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Television Issue!

It aggravates me to no end, when people sit here and continue to argue about UPCI and television, and then say that internet is ok. I don't have a problem with either. I'm a music minister, and I have internet and Charter!

Furthermore, I do believe when DBK updates the UPCI church manual in the next few years that the Television Issue will be removed.

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Old 04-05-2011, 09:08 AM
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It aggravates me to no end, when people sit here and continue to argue about UPCI and television, and then say that internet is ok. I don't have a problem with either. I'm a music minister, and I have internet and Charter!

Furthermore, I do believe when DBK updates the UPCI church manual in the next few years that the Television Issue will be removed.

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Other than the same content is on both, how do you compare the two to be the same?
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Old 04-05-2011, 09:13 AM
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Other than the same content is on both, how do you compare the two to be the same?
Exactly....then why do they argue about having tv then? Why is having an internet connection ok, and having a tv no ok?
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Exactly....then why do they argue about having tv then? Why is having an internet connection ok, and having a tv no ok?
I was asking why you considered tv and internet the same?
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Old 04-05-2011, 09:37 AM
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I don't attend church at all anymore. I left the UPC 6 years ago. But, I have internet and not TV. Here are my arguments. First off, I don't think the legalistic UPC stance is healthy. I watch all the videos I want without commercials and there are lots of shows on the internet. TV is noisy and I don't like that. I don't like commercials. With the internet, I pick and choose and don't have shows spoon fed to me. I watch TV in hotels and get my fill there. Will I never have a TV? Never say never, but I don't even think about it usually. I don't feel deprived. I would feel invaded if I had a TV in my house. I am just used to it this way. My very liberal sister (I mean vegetarian, environmentalist type) doesn't have a TV either.
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It aggravates me to no end, when people sit here and continue to argue about UPCI and television, and then say that internet is ok. I don't have a problem with either. I'm a music minister, and I have internet and Charter!

Furthermore, I do believe when DBK updates the UPCI church manual in the next few years that the Television Issue will be removed.

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So, two wrongs do make a right?
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I don't attend church at all anymore. I left the UPC 6 years ago. But, I have internet and not TV. Here are my arguments. First off, I don't think the legalistic UPC stance is healthy. I watch all the videos I want without commercials and there are lots of shows on the internet. TV is noisy and I don't like that. I don't like commercials. With the internet, I pick and choose and don't have shows spoon fed to me. I watch TV in hotels and get my fill there. Will I never have a TV? Never say never, but I don't even think about it usually. I don't feel deprived. I would feel invaded if I had a TV in my house. I am just used to it this way. My very liberal sister (I mean vegetarian, environmentalist type) doesn't have a TV either.
Good argument from a non UPC stance. There are many logical arguments for not having a cable/satellite TV in my opinion. (one of them is my wallet).

On a moral issue I think the heart is in the bolded of your post. The same content is on both and while the internet has it readily accessible, you pick and choose whether you indulge in poison or flowers. The UPC is consistent in that it strongly advises filters for the internet. They are not necessarily completely hypocritical on it.
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Good argument from a non UPC stance. There are many logical arguments for not having a cable TV in my opinion. (one of them is my wallet)
The wallet issue is ALWAYS relevant.
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My husband was saying the other day that you have to pay for TV now because it's all on cable. So, he says now you pay them to advertise to you! (Of course internet is the same!)
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It aggravates me to no end, when people sit here and continue to argue about UPCI and television, and then say that internet is ok. I don't have a problem with either. I'm a music minister, and I have internet and Charter!

Furthermore, I do believe when DBK updates the UPCI church manual in the next few years that the Television Issue will be removed.

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My thought is, your blatant disobedience to what the guidelines of your organization demand, isn't pleasing to God. If you have Charter cable TV while the Article of Faith clearly state that it's "Disapproved of", you should do the honorable thing and get rid of it, or be honest with yourself and leave the UPC.
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