Montana republicans

[Seascapes]

I love the scripture, but God still gives a choice, choose life or death, and I am sorry to say, many still chooses death. It is their choice and God wants it to be that way or He would not give them a choice, He would make them do what He wants them to. After all He is God, and he could, but He won't.

[aegsm76]

Looks like it's Montana's business, anyway.
For myself, I would prefer that there be no abortions except in a situation where it could be permitted by a doctor.
The problem now is that the abortion industry has grown to be very profitable and there is big money in it.
That is part of the reason why you hear screaming anytime limits are set.
I find it amazing and nonsensical that a 16 year old needs a permission slip from a parent to attend a school field trip, with a medical release form.
But that same 16 year old can walk into an abortion clinic and receive an abortion with no one being notified or asked for approval.
Also, from a personal situation, the medical industry will push you toward an abortion rather than focus on solving the pregnancy problem.
I will say that once you emphatically state you will not have an abortion, then they will do their job quite skillfully.
But before that point, abortion is their solution to many pregnancy problems.

[sandie]

Originally Posted by Light

Sandy did you just search the word choose? This verse you use has nothing to do with abortion. It's about choosing God.

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I didn't do a search on the word choose, I already knew of the Scripture.
I know it doesn't specifiy abortion, but imo, it applies to life as well.
God says to choose life so that you and your seed may live. Choosing God entails so much.

I have a study somewhere that looks into how we can know Jesus would never condone abortion, I'll have to see if I can find it.

[sandie]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

Looks like it's Montana's business, anyway.
For myself, I would prefer that there be no abortions except in a situation where it could be permitted by a doctor.
The problem now is that the abortion industry has grown to be very profitable and there is big money in it.
That is part of the reason why you hear screaming anytime limits are set.
I find it amazing and nonsensical that a 16 year old needs a permission slip from a parent to attend a school field trip, with a medical release form.
But that same 16 year old can walk into an abortion clinic and receive an abortion with no one being notified or asked for approval.
Also, from a personal situation, the medical industry will push you toward an abortion rather than focus on solving the pregnancy problem.
I will say that once you emphatically state you will not have an abortion, then they will do their job quite skillfully.
But before that point, abortion is their solution to many pregnancy problems.

I think you've hit it right. In my state they are starting to regulate Pregnancy Crisis Centers. They're making it almost impossible for those centers to exist since they totally depend on donations.
The Bible says the love of money is the root of all evil. These centers were cutting in on the business of the abortion mills.

[aegsm76]

C'mon guys cut out the nonsense.
Here's you some scripture.

For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother's womb.

Did not he that made me in the womb make him? and did not one fashion us in the womb?

"The Lord called me before my birth. From within the womb he called me by my name...He said to me, `You are my servant'..."

God know us when we are in the womb.
Abortion is killing a human being.
Any argument with that?

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by Light

No wonder he lost! Ha ha just couldn't let this go by with out responding.

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[Seascapes]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

Looks like it's Montana's business, anyway.
For myself, I would prefer that there be no abortions except in a situation where it could be permitted by a doctor. The problem now is that the abortion industry has grown to be very profitable and there is big money in it. That is part of the reason why you hear screaming anytime limits are set. I find it amazing and nonsensical that a 16 year old needs a permission slip from a parent to attend a school field trip, with a medical release form.
But that same 16 year old can walk into an abortion clinic and receive an abortion with no one being notified or asked for approval. Also, from a personal situation, the medical industry will push you toward an abortion rather than focus on solving the pregnancy problem. I will say that once you emphatically state you will not have an abortion, then they will do their job quite skillfully. But before that point, abortion is their solution to many pregnancy problems.

I also know of a young girl that went to have an abortion, she had to have her mother present and had to pay cash before she saw the doctor, no insurance was involved. Then she said that they went through a detail description of how the abortion would be done. She said, all the time they were trying to talk her out of having an abortion. I believe these people in the medical field do what they can to get these women to change their minds and have the baby, and afterward most of these young women cry, but they saw no other choice. Even when some have abortions, it is a hard choice they made and they are not happy with their choice.

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by Seascapes

I also know of a young girl that went to have an abortion, she had to have her mother present and had to pay cash before she saw the doctor, no insurance was involved. Then she said that they went through a detail description of how the abortion would be done. She said, all the time they were trying to talk her out of having an abortion. I believe these people in the medical field do what they can to get these women to change their minds and have the baby, and afterward most of these young women cry, but they saw no other choice. Even when some have abortions, it is a hard choice they made and they are not happy with their choice.

You are correct, it is an all cash business, which is why it is so profitable.
My experience has not been with those centers that try to talk you out of it.
I do agree that some women agonize over their decision and some agonize over it for the rest of their life.

[Light]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

You are correct, it is an all cash business, which is why it is so profitable.
My experience has not been with those centers that try to talk you out of it.
I do agree that some women agonize over their decision and some agonize over it for the rest of their life.

Aegsm76 you probably don't know but for a couple of years I have stated on this and other forums that the republicans are not going to reverse Row V Wade because it is a hot button issue they can't afford to lose.
They need this issue.

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[aegsm76]

Light - I think you may be right, but I'll add one more thing. I think both political parties don't want the abortion issue to go away, because they use it to rally their base.
So, it's not just the Republicans, but also the Democrats.
Sadly, I think both of them use it to cover up other issues that they need to address.
I will say that for me it is a vitally important issue, because I do view it as the murder of an innocent human being.
However, I do wonder if we as Christians would be more "compassionate" toward some of those getting abortions if it would help.
The problem is I am not totally sure what I mean by compassionate.
Do we offer to pay women to not have abortions?
Then would we be encouraging more women to threaten to have abortions?
It's a tough thing to determine the correct course of action.