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01-24-2011, 12:59 PM
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Apostolic News: AFF has been HIJACKED
Perhaps in retaliation for the KAL BOORA incident it seems the editors at Apostolic news believe that Trinitarians and backsliders are taking over AFF .... or perhaps lack of knowledge of the diversity among apostolics ????
http://www.apostolicnews.org/2011/01...Apostolic+News)
Paul, you've pulled a Kal Boora.
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01-24-2011, 01:00 PM
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Re: Apostolic News: AFF has been HIJACKED
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Apostolic Forums Hijacked by Trinitarians and Disgruntled Backsliders
Posted by Paul Baumeister
ELK GROVE, CA – January 22, 2011. The Internet can be a wealth of knowledge great for research, business, and in some cases entertainment. However, there are many things that an Apostolic Christian should know concerning sites that claim to be “apostolic.” This article is in reference to some forums that claim an apostolic identity while the contents of these so-called apostolic forums are anything but apostolic. Anyone can register an identity as whatever they want, because there are no verifications or restrictions.
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Read the whole story here.
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01-24-2011, 01:06 PM
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Re: Apostolic News: AFF has been HIJACKED
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Perhaps in retaliation for the KAL BOORA incident it seems the editors at Apostolic news believe that Trinitarians and backsliders are taking over AFF .... or perhaps lack of knowledge of the diversity among apostolics ????
http://www.apostolicnews.org/2011/01...Apostolic+News)
Paul, you've pulled a Kal Boora.
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Who wrote this? Is that supposed to be journalism?
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01-24-2011, 01:07 PM
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Re: Apostolic News: AFF has been HIJACKED
Is this Nate Wilson's church? Boy, they run the world from Elk Grove, don't they! LOL
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01-24-2011, 01:08 PM
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Re: Apostolic News: AFF has been HIJACKED
Read: "Careful not to question our teaching. Keep your people in fear and ignorance, learning only from our endorsed index of books and websites. We are afraid and intimidated." We go get plastic doctoral degrees, posture ourselves as the know-it-alls, thrive on you looking to us as the Messiah, and build up a distorted perspective of discipling.
Their publication and indictment of AFF will only attract more people here. Mark my words.
Sad...
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01-24-2011, 01:12 PM
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Re: Apostolic News: AFF has been HIJACKED
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I am very concerned for our children that surf these forum sites and become entangled with so much of this filth. I hesitate to name some of these forums, for the sake of giving them more publicity, so I will not.
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I sure hope they read here ...
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01-24-2011, 01:13 PM
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Re: Apostolic News: AFF has been HIJACKED
I can fully understand the concern within traditional Oneness Pentecostalism. The sect has never tolerated free exchange of thoughts.
So much of the extra biblical trappings are justified with "pretzel logic" they do not encourage thinking outside their paradigm as it does not hold up.
Most who are fearful of AFF and like forums are good hearted well intentioned people I am sure. They simply see it as a pandora's box that once opened will cause their saints / relatives / loved ones ,etc to start looking at some of the traditions and start questioning them.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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01-24-2011, 01:13 PM
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Re: Apostolic News: AFF has been HIJACKED
Looks like Praxeas.
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01-24-2011, 01:18 PM
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Re: Apostolic News: AFF has been HIJACKED
I disagree that there is any "filth" on the AFF; however, I agree that this is not a child-friendly site. My children can participate in forums like this when they are adults and not a moment before, if I have any say in it.
Most discussion forums cover topics that are not child-friendly. For one thing, children are still developing ideas and belief systems, and that should be parent-directed--not "stranger-on-the-internet-directed." Once we have raised our children to the best of our ability and they are well settled in the fundamentals, they can discuss things with their peers and elders to their hearts' content. Beyond that, there are discussions with themes that are purely adult in nature.
So, I agree with them that this is not a child-safe site. It isn't intended to be.
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01-24-2011, 01:19 PM
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Re: Apostolic News: AFF has been HIJACKED
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I can fully understand the concern within traditional Oneness Pentecostalism. The sect has never tolerated free exchange of thoughts.
So much of the extra biblical trappings are justified with "pretzel logic" they do not encourage thinking outside their paradigm as it does not hold up.
Most who are fearful of AFF and like forums are good hearted well intentioned people I am sure. They simply see it as a pandora's box that once opened will cause their saints / relatives / loved ones ,etc to start looking at some of the traditions and start questioning them.
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They feel the need to be in control.
They've already preached about this forum in indirect ways. This is the first time so explicitly. Ha... and with such educated words by journalistic standards ("filth" was used twice). This is the Chief Editor?
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