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Old 05-06-2007, 12:05 AM
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UPCI Growth Stats: The Ministry to Church Ratio

This stats are old but .... interesting ...

Source: http://www.spiritualabuse.org/upcbeliefs.html

Out of all the Oneness (also known as Apostolic) churches, the United Pentecostal Church is considered the largest.


In the organization's report on the growth statistics of the UPCI from 1945 through 1999, it is interesting that the UPCI compares its statistics with the Assembly of God. If the UPCI truly wants to compare growth, why not do so with other Apostolic churches? How does their growth compare to the PAW or ALJC? Below are some details of the report.

In 1945 the UPC had 521 churches and as of 1999 they had 3892. From 1998 to 1999 they added 31 churches, which was an .8% growth. (This is the net amount after subtracting the churches which closed or left the organization from the new ones which started.) This is certainly not an indicative of the 'enormous' growth some members claim.


According to their records, on the average 147 new churches are added each year and 101 churches close or leave the UPCI. According to the official web site of the UPCI, they now have 3876 churches (down from 1999 figures), with an estimated constituency of 600,000. (These are all North America figures.)


In 1945 the UPC had 1838 ministers and as of 1999 they had 8372. From 1998 to 1999 they added 153 ministers, which was a 1.86% growth.
They had, as of 1999, 4480 more licensed ministers than they had churches.


In 1986 they gained 165 churches and lost 92; in 1987 they gained 175 and lost 97; in 1988 they gained 144 and lost 85; in 1989 they gained 172 and lost 111; in 1990 they gained 137 and lost 122; in 1991 they gained 147 and lost 91; in 1992 they gained 145 and lost 91; in 1993 they gained 136 and lost 177 (This was when the yearly affirmation took effect.); in 1994 they gained 146 and lost 98; in 1995 they gained 154 and lost 93; in 1996 they gained 130 and lost 78; and in 1997 they gained 123 and lost 78. From 1986 through 1997 the UPC did not average a net of more than 47 new churches per year in a 12 year period.


To bring it home, in 1982 New Jersey had 9 churches and in 1984 there were 11. That was an increase of one per year. In 2001 they had 20. So from 1982 to 2001, New Jersey added 11 churches, a growth rate of less than 1 per year. (This was taken from UPCI Church Directories.) It is evident the UPC ministry is growing at a much greater rate than their churches.


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Does anyone have some current stats on churches added and dropped ... from 99-2007??

Total churches today? Total ministers today?

What is the the ministers to churches ratio today?

Why aren't there more churches ... especially considering the growing number of ministers?
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Old 05-06-2007, 12:16 AM
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As of today ... according the UPCI Church locator ... there are 30 churches in NJ now ... 2 are w/o a pastor listed ...

Interestingly ... apparently a good friend of mine Angel Andino has recently opened a new work in Passaic.
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Looks like my friend Jhon Rios, also in NJ ... is no longer w/ the fellowship.
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Old 05-06-2007, 12:27 AM
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Looks like my friend Jhon Rios, also in NJ ... is no longer w/ the fellowship.
Alicia's hubby?
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Looks like my friend Jhon Rios, also in NJ ... is no longer w/ the fellowship.
Or he is not listed online.
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Or he is not listed online.
No ... I think I saw his name in the no longer affiliated section of one of the last Forewards I received ...
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He's not showing up on the minister's database either ...

https://wec.upci.org/ministers/default.asp
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This stats are old but .... interesting ...

Source: http://www.spiritualabuse.org/upcbeliefs.html

Out of all the Oneness (also known as Apostolic) churches, the United Pentecostal Church is considered the largest.


In the organization's report on the growth statistics of the UPCI from 1945 through 1999, it is interesting that the UPCI compares its statistics with the Assembly of God. If the UPCI truly wants to compare growth, why not do so with other Apostolic churches? How does their growth compare to the PAW or ALJC? Below are some details of the report.

In 1945 the UPC had 521 churches and as of 1999 they had 3892. From 1998 to 1999 they added 31 churches, which was an .8% growth. (This is the net amount after subtracting the churches which closed or left the organization from the new ones which started.) This is certainly not an indicative of the 'enormous' growth some members claim.


According to their records, on the average 147 new churches are added each year and 101 churches close or leave the UPCI. According to the official web site of the UPCI, they now have 3876 churches (down from 1999 figures), with an estimated constituency of 600,000. (These are all North America figures.)


In 1945 the UPC had 1838 ministers and as of 1999 they had 8372. From 1998 to 1999 they added 153 ministers, which was a 1.86% growth.
They had, as of 1999, 4480 more licensed ministers than they had churches.


In 1986 they gained 165 churches and lost 92; in 1987 they gained 175 and lost 97; in 1988 they gained 144 and lost 85; in 1989 they gained 172 and lost 111; in 1990 they gained 137 and lost 122; in 1991 they gained 147 and lost 91; in 1992 they gained 145 and lost 91; in 1993 they gained 136 and lost 177 (This was when the yearly affirmation took effect.); in 1994 they gained 146 and lost 98; in 1995 they gained 154 and lost 93; in 1996 they gained 130 and lost 78; and in 1997 they gained 123 and lost 78. From 1986 through 1997 the UPC did not average a net of more than 47 new churches per year in a 12 year period.


To bring it home, in 1982 New Jersey had 9 churches and in 1984 there were 11. That was an increase of one per year. In 2001 they had 20. So from 1982 to 2001, New Jersey added 11 churches, a growth rate of less than 1 per year. (This was taken from UPCI Church Directories.) It is evident the UPC ministry is growing at a much greater rate than their churches.


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Does anyone have some current stats on churches added and dropped ... from 99-2007??

Total churches today? Total ministers today?

What is the the ministers to churches ratio today?

Why aren't there more churches ... especially considering the growing number of ministers?

While the numbers, when they are touted, should reflect those leaving/closing, it still shows the UPC as a growing church organization by todays USA standards. If the foreign field is included it makes the UPC a rapidly growing church denomination.

As to the Minister/church ratio, I see that as a tendency toward larger churches with more than one licensed minister. Our church 350 has six I believe.
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600,000 members in the USA and only 8372 churches? Interesting. That would make the average USA church having a little more than 154 each. Actually, I doubt that the average church has the 54 much less the 154. I wonder where those stats come from. Thinking evangelistically again, are we?
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